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Schwarzenegger Implores GOP To Follow Script of His Sequel: Court the Center
Washington Post ^ | Nov. 10, 2006 | John Pomfret

Posted on 11/10/2006 9:06:56 PM PST by FairOpinion

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To: Amerigomag

I'm talking about post blackout Davis, Angelides never had a chance from the beginning, Rinold is claiming to have a phony mandate.


301 posted on 11/11/2006 1:15:42 AM PST by John Lenin (The most dangerous place for a child in America is indeed in its mother's womb)
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To: frankensnake
Everybody's for conservation...

Agreed. There is an obvious similarity in the words conservatism and conservation and conserve.

However, today's environmental activism, and growing influx of Government landgrabs and regulation, have little to do with conservation. They have created a new unaccountable form of Government (NGOs) whose objective is not much different than the communists we knew a few decades ago. Arnold's environmental platform was written by those activists (specifically, Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and his lapdog Terry Tamminen). It provides for more regulation, bigger government, and a less accountable government. It is not about being for or against the environment--it is all about how you conserve.

302 posted on 11/11/2006 1:18:14 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: goldstategop
Your description raises an interesting question: if the nation's voters rejected Big Government conservatism, why have California voters embraced it in Arnold?

I don't understand your question. There is no conservatism in Arnold to embrace.

303 posted on 11/11/2006 1:21:56 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: NormsRevenge

Kona ? You lucky bastard !


304 posted on 11/11/2006 1:23:11 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: Ingtar

Kinda like what happened in the state of Massachusetts. Weld basically helped destroy the MA Republican party.
I dont think courting the center is offensive, I just think Arnold's centrist politics is the wrong flavor of RINO. Arnold helped to give us a huge tax increase with 40 billion of borrowing.
Maybe a socially liberal version of McClintock would probably be a winning flavor of RINO.

The only good thing is Arnold may be our chance to eliminate Boxer. And thats the only good thing.


305 posted on 11/11/2006 1:26:22 AM PST by Munson
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To: calcowgirl; Mojave; Amerigomag

Yes, his donations seem very troubling... but one that stood out was his one to Kris Kobach. Kobach was a bonafide Conservative GOP Congressional candidate in KS. Perhaps he did have a change of heart, we shall see. Of course, Insurance Commissioner ain't too sexy a job, and it's one we've actually won 3 out of the last 4 times it came up (Chuck Quackenbush having won it in '94 and '98 before he was run out on a rail).


306 posted on 11/11/2006 1:31:19 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: Proud_USA_Republican
I predict that Pelosi is going to spend the next two years in utter term oil as the moonbat leftists who now dominate the DNC push their far left agenda and its going to be a trainwreck. Meanwhile, the republicans and conservatives will have some time to get their $hit together.

Pelosi has set up something that is hard to control, but she is smarter than she looks.

The far left radical rhetoric that she spewed disappeared, as did she, long enough before the election for the MSM watching America to forget about it.

I'll bet the screeching leftie Rats and impeachment nuts will never be seen or heard from again as Pelosi's Rats court moderate America for 2008.

Pelosi will take credit for bringing the troops home (but Rats will do it as slowly as possible because Bush will take any blame and rats will take the credit for any gains left from our military's sacrifice) as the MSM cover up the bloodbath like Darfur, Somalia, and Rawanda. If any American influence remains in the ME Rats will take credit for it.

Rat Pelosi treasonously sabotaged the war to destroy Bush, America be damned. Now that Bush is perceived to have lost public support and has ALL the blame, Pelosi wants to win the war because the credit and power over the ME from winning will go to the Rats. Pelosi will sacrifice American military and Iraqis as much as necessary to get it.

307 posted on 11/11/2006 1:35:38 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Zimbabwe, leftist success story.)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel
Arnold won because he didn't do what other Republicans did-bow and scrape to the religious right to win votes. While the other Republicans were wasting their time with the straw-man argument of gay marriage, Arnold was actually doing what he was elected to do. Social conservatives need to get it through their heads that most of the country is more libertarian than they are and does not believe in Christian Socialism.

Protecting the institution of man-woman traditional marriage is not mandating Creationism in science classes, for goodness sake.

That, as you put it, time-wasting straw man gay marriage argument happens to be a proven vote-getter, an overwhelmingly popular political position which cuts across virtually all political demographics in Blue and Red states alike. It's about as sure a winning issue as exists in politics. The suggestion that it's a political loser for Republicans which emanates from the fringe of puritanical Christian zealots out to control the lives of others is risible.

The gay marriage issue is about as bad an example as one could use to attempt to make the point you intended to make.

308 posted on 11/11/2006 1:41:02 AM PST by AHerald ("Take heart; rise, He is calling you" (Mark 10:49))
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To: Munson
"Maybe a socially liberal version of McClintock would probably be a winning flavor of RINO."

That's not possible. There is no such thing as a honest and fiscal Conservative being a social liberal RINO, because the inclinations of the latter favor an expansionist government and increased spending. You can, however, be a Social Conservative and fiscal lib.

309 posted on 11/11/2006 1:41:47 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I looked into who his career contributors have been and didn't like what I saw at all. His constant supporters have been the same venture capitalists that have been putting intitiative after initiative on the ballot to enrich themselves or to move the state left (reducing the vote% for education bonds, taxes on everything to pay for green intiatives, etc.) I'd have to look them up, but these are not the friends of the taxpayer, or the people. He's a bit too connected for my liking. Quackenbush got caught, Garamendi got away (Exec Life). What will Poizner do? Time will tell.


310 posted on 11/11/2006 1:42:24 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: AHerald; WestVirginiaRebel

factoid:

• In 2000, 61.4% of California voters passed Proposition 22, the California Defense of Marriage Act, barring recognition of same-sex marriages.


311 posted on 11/11/2006 1:46:03 AM PST by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Navy Patriot

Won't it be amazing watching the current Republican leadership allow Rats to take credit for only a job the CIC can do?

That's why we have to get our acts together with the new RNC Chairman, new Congressional leadership and get a strong CONSERVATIVE front runner going for 2008 even if we gotta search candidate out ourselves.

We gotta start getting a Republican message out to the people at least by 2007!


312 posted on 11/11/2006 1:55:31 AM PST by kuma (Mark Sanford '08 http://www.petitiononline.com/msan2008/petition.html)
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To: calcowgirl
factoid: • In 2000, 61.4% of California voters passed Proposition 22, the California Defense of Marriage Act, barring recognition of same-sex marriage

Now that's one heckuva persuasive factoid.

313 posted on 11/11/2006 1:56:41 AM PST by AHerald ("Take heart; rise, He is calling you" (Mark 10:49))
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To: fieldmarshaldj

***That's not possible. There is no such thing as a honest and fiscal Conservative being a social liberal RINO, because the inclinations of the latter favor an expansionist government and increased spending.***

Rudy Guilliani is a fine example of that. He claims to be a fiscal conservative/social liberal but he left NYC further in debt than what it was when he got there. He can't use 9/11 either because that happened in the last few months of him being in office as Mayor.


314 posted on 11/11/2006 1:59:21 AM PST by kuma (Mark Sanford '08 http://www.petitiononline.com/msan2008/petition.html)
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To: calcowgirl

That speech is nothing but a load of macaca. It's like the ghosts of Hiram Johnson, Earl Warren and George Christopher rising from the dead. Ronald Reagan would be disgusted.


315 posted on 11/11/2006 2:12:23 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Cheney X -- Destroying the Liberal Democrat Traitors By Any Means Necessary -- Ya Dig ? Sho 'Nuff.)
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To: kuma
What saddens me about the Iraq war is the fact that W didn't understand that a large part of the enemy that he intended to fight were right here in the United States.

I speak, of course, of the socialist (Communist) left of the RAT party. These coward traitors hated W because he won election in 2000 in spite of all their election fraud. A hate like no other, phsycopathic in nature, created an amoral group. No treason was too large to destroy W.

W didn't recognize this. For reasons of his and his administration's safety (and following, the safety of the nation) these people should have been removed form any position of influence in all executive agencies and military (there were a few). W failed to take any action whatsoever.

History propelled W into a position where war was required and his government was filled with Rat traitors dedicated to destroying Bush regardless of the consequences for America.

The result was the original war plan for Iraq was hobbled and then quickly scrapped, and it was a plan that had three key unifying ex-patriot Iraqi individuals that may have reduced dramatically all casualties, the sectarian violence, and made the war shorter and tolerable for the American people.

It was Rat state department operatives that got this plan bumped off. Rat CIA ops engineered the Valerie Plame hoax. It all comes to Rat insider treason in time of war. If they hadn't been on the inside, they couldn't commit the treason, despite how badly they wanted too.

316 posted on 11/11/2006 2:38:21 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Zimbabwe, leftist success story.)
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To: FairOpinion

Proof that democrats own california it's an ungovernable state just look at the mess the state is in onbody wins in california but the won with the most money for a bribe.


317 posted on 11/11/2006 2:39:27 AM PST by Vaduz (and just think how clean the cities would become again.)
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To: FairOpinion

One problem AR-NULD, the rest of the country IS NOT the People's Republic of Kalifornia.


318 posted on 11/11/2006 3:34:40 AM PST by AmericaUnited
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To: calcowgirl
You know, entitlements, big government spending and pork. The same thing the GOP pushed in Congress, Arnold pushed in California. So why would California voters reward a Republican who does many of the same things the national GOP did and get re-elected?

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

319 posted on 11/11/2006 3:41:58 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: L.N. Smithee

As per the results of this election, this country has moved further to the right on social issues. One cannot argue that.

The Rats had it right. They prepped the battlefield to be a referendum on Bush and Iraq. They didn't talk economy for a year. They didn't talk abortion, gay marriage or right to die. They talked about two things, Corruption and Iraq and Bush and the party failed to get their message out.

Blame the media. Blame the Rats. Blame moderate voters. Thing is, when we pushed the issues buttons in the voting booth, we looked at the candidate, said RINO and left him out before we pushed VOTE.

We did exactly what the RATS knew we would do.


320 posted on 11/11/2006 5:02:26 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (The voting machines aren't broken. The Dems operating the voting machines are broken.)
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