Posted on 11/10/2006 4:23:47 PM PST by jamesrichards
Hagel and the rest of the anti-sovereignty scum will cost Republicans the 08 election too. Republicans can't win acting like Democrats.
agree.
Hagel? He's the RINO poster child. He and John McCain take soapy hot tubs together.
ok - time to start - buenos dios, que pasa, onis, doce, tres
I posted his ACU rating. He is not a RINO. He's not my favorite by far, but his votes in the US Senate tell the tale.
Ok, now that was a visual I didn't need. Ick! LOL!
The senate voted 62-36 for that bloated horrific immigration bill that specter created.
There were only 36 votes for stopping it I think 32 were republicans.
You would need 40 votes for a filibuster.
And you know the dems will push this.
I disagree with the people saying the dems won't push this to protect their candidates.
The dems will push this because they see this as taking an issue away from the conservatives.
The dems know by passing this it will demoralize the gop base for 08.
60 percent at least of the public doesn't want amnesty. The voters weren't voting about amnesty during the election but they can't stand it. Even dem blue collar voters don't like it but the dem politicians do.
Why the gop didn't run on this more is beyond me. They kept talking about taxes not stopping pelosi from her amnesty agenda.
What is really troubling is I don't see a way to stop this now.
Conservatives in the senate need to not leave the floor a true filibuster and not let the bill proceed.
Tancredo was bashing the party without thinking that it might bring it down and leave us in a impossible position.
I hope pence and tancredo are thinking up a way to block this.
Voting for Amnesty didn't save Chafee and DeWine, did it?
Chafee (R-RI), Yea
DeWine (R-OH), Yea
Pence is supposed to be running for a leadership position. It will give him some power over the Repubs at least. Hopefully that will be a good enough soap box to get up and preach on.
Though the MSM will do everything in their power to ignore him, he needs to work around it and get this message out to the people so both Dems and Repubs will fear for their paycheck.
He was right. The only thing a small but vocal nucleus cared about was kicking Hispanics out of the country. I think that alienated a lot of people (not only Hispanics, btw) and made the GOP look like a bitter bunch of nativists with no constructive answer to anything. All of the other issues got lost in an obsession with Hispanic - oh, sorry - "illegal" immigration.
People who really wanted to deal with the illegals problem would have put pressure on their city and state governments to stop giving out welfare freebies to everybody, permit police and other authorities to check IDs and submit reports to immigration authorities, etc. Almost all the laws that are a problem in terms of dealing with illegal immigration are local laws, passed by Dems who want to keep their welfare population thriving and voting Dem.
Making it a federal issue made it impossible to solve, made the GOP look bad, and distracted voters from the real issues.
The only mistake the gop house made was when sensennbrenner included felony for illegals that cross the border.
You can cut down on them without a felony. He should have used felony for people that hire them.
The media played up the felony non stop even after the house said they would take it out in conference.
Heather Wilson looks like she might have won even though she is good on immigration in a 30 percent hispanic district.
I agree the hispanic vote went way down and they were more motivated to come out. But I think a lot of that was the felony media misperception.
When does this sh*t for brains come up for reelection?
It's beginning to look hopeless.
Immigration and Usurpation: Elites, Power, and the People’s Will
All three branches of government are in on it together. :(
see post #41 from the link at #35
Flake's pro amnesty.
For Operation Vanguard, the INS used a more sophisticated tactic. It subpoenaed personnel records from Midwestern meatpacking plants and checked them against INS and Social Security databases of authorized workers, then interviewed suspect employees. Of 24,148 employees checked, 4,495, or 19 percent, had dubious documents at about 40 plants in Nebraska, western Iowa and South Dakota. Of those workers, 70 percent disappeared rather than be interviewed. Of 1,042 questioned, 34 were arrested and deported.
Nebraska's members of Congress at first called for tougher enforcement, recalled Mark Reed, then INS director of operations. But when the result shut down some plants, "all hell broke loose," he said.
Secretary of Agriculture Mike Johanns (R), who was governor at the time, appointed a task force to oppose the operation. Former governor Ben Nelson (D), now a U.S. senator, was hired as a lobbyist by meatpackers and ranchers. Sen. Chuck Hagel (Rino) pressured the Justice Department to stop.
...Operation Vanguard -- which was designed to expand to four states in four months and nationwide the next year, eventually including the lodging, food and construction industries -- was killed.
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