Posted on 11/09/2006 9:38:57 PM PST by Logic Times
Rush Limbaugh has it wrong. He stated Wednesday that "[c]onservatism did not lose, Republicanism lost last night. Republicanism, being a political party first, rather than an ideological movement, is what lost last night." (here) This statement – a statement echoed by Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck and other conservative pundits to whom a nation of shell-shocked conservatives turned for cathartic analysis – fails a simple test. If the electorate was demanding conservatism, then why did strong, principled conservatives lose? Incumbent conservatives such as Rick Santorum, George Allen, J.D. Hayworth and Curt Weldon to name a few. Superb conservative newcomers such as Ken Blackwell and Michael Steele.
The actions of the electorate last Tuesday was an indiscriminate firing of Republicans, not a thoughtful weeding out of RINOs. It is true that Republicanism lost on Tuesday, but it lost in all its forms – and that included the exact form of strong, clear conservatism that the movement desperately needs.
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They through Abramoff, stem cells and giving lobby money to his wife all over him.
I believe with Rudy we will get Clinton 40% WH victory. A '92/'96 flashback. Perceived and real scandals were a factor in this election and Rudy is no stranger to bad publicity. That will all come back in an election and people will forget the likeable Rudy.
Rudy doesn't have anywhere near the scandals of Hillary, and he has lead(What has Hillary done?)
I'm deciding between Rudy, Newt and Mitt Romney. However, none of the three will satisfy a large majority here and we'll likely get the same result as Tuesday and people break and vote third party. I guess one benefit from age, we have a long memory of history and become a little more philosophical about the worst of two evils and realize that a third party aids the dems, not the GOP.
Few do have anywhere near the scandals of Hillary
Amazing how all day Tuesday the dems were saying there was fraud, yet once it went their way they fell silent -- yet I read that in one Indiana county a whole lot of machines (with votes?) have yet to be turned over -- disappeared.
The difference being the MSM won't talk about hillary's crimes and misdemeanors.
You are so right. They've always accused others on things they themselves do.
Exactly.
And if the republican is perfect they will invent scandals, crimes and baggage.
Harriet Miers, Dubai Ports, and Immigration were such angry, hateful in-house fights for Republicans that they did project the image that the party was totally unhealthy. Add to that the incessant "war is a shambles" and "republicans are corrupt" drumbeat from O'Reilly to Katie Couric, and the squishy independents who decide elections probably did get the idea that things were spiraling out of control. I agree that most conservatives/republicans did pull the republican lever at the end of the day. I can't believe that the "angry conservatives" who vote Democrat did so in huge numbers. What we lost were the independents and the squishy republicans who vote with us on our good days. We also miserably lost the information war.
He endorsed Spector. Spector is a liberal. Spector is hated in PA. He almost lost his primary and he almost lost his last election by 2%. The only thing that saved him was a Bush/Santorum endorsement and the Unions in Philly.
Conservatives in PA did not forget that. Spector kept a low profile during Santorum's race because that is how much he is disliked. If PA is so liberal than an endorsement and heavy campaigning by Spector would have been good for him but even the RINO himself knows how unpopular he is. Here in PA Casey is a bigger name than you think it is and it's a conservative name.
It is a tragedy that we lost him here in PA. Having Santorum made Spector bareable for me.
This loss gives everyone a fresh perspective, they taught the
(R)'s a lesson and after 2 years of Nancy I think they will be willing to kiss and make with the GOP. ;)
After 2 years of Nancy the center will be moved to the left and Rudy will be redifined and an unelectable far-right winger.
Turnout was the problem (R)'s stayed home(thats what happened)
That's right.
Unfortunately I know a few who voted libertarian.
Now who's scandals do you think the MSM is gonna cover? Hillary's or Gulliani's?
If we want to win in 2008 we are gonna have to be honest about what we are up against.
The public didn't repudiate conservatism. But a substantial segment of the public is conservative without being serious enough to use conservatism as the decisive voting issue. Or, in other cases, some people are too ignorant to understand that their Republican candidate is a conservative and that the Rat candidate, whatever he/she says, is a liberal.
...in fact I think that's why we should hope our conservative candidates come out much sooner rather than wait until after the dems have redefined the center. Better to have the Newts be out there now.
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