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To: Keltik

"In a time requiring long views and self-denial, alliance with a faction founded upon doctrinaire selfishness would be absurd-and practically damaging."

Is the author really advocating collectivism as the answer to Conservative's lack of victory?


101 posted on 11/10/2006 4:51:53 AM PST by CSM (Americans are getting more and more childish and looking for Big Mommy to take care of them.)
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To: CSM
Is the author really advocating collectivism as the answer to Conservative's lack of victory?

Everyone with a brain knows libertarian anarchy is the way to go.

No government? No problem!

Hu-yuck!

103 posted on 11/10/2006 5:01:53 AM PST by JCEccles
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I have seen little evidence that any (libertarian) poster on this thread has the slightest idea who the author, Russell Kirk, is.

That's pathetic. One might expect such appalling ignorance from liberals, but not from supposedly stalwart conservatives.

Professing to admire conservatism and not knowing who Russell Kirk is, is like professing to admire objectivism and not knowing who Ayn Rand is.

105 posted on 11/10/2006 5:09:30 AM PST by JCEccles
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To: CSM
"In a time requiring long views and self-denial, alliance with a faction founded upon doctrinaire selfishness would be absurd-and practically damaging."
Is the author really advocating collectivism as the answer to Conservative's lack of victory?

As I noted upthread, there are two types of self-denial (voluntary self-denial in order to gain greater rewards later or to meet one's obligations, and involuntary self-denial imposed so that others can loot what rightfully belongs to you). Inasmuch as the former is perfectly consistent with libertarianism, the author can only be referring to, and implicitly praising, the latter.

117 posted on 11/10/2006 8:02:00 AM PST by steve-b (It's hard to be religious when certain people don't get struck by lightning.)
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