[LS]

"But they do want the troops out before the elections in 08' and they want Bush to pull them out so they and their buddies in the MSM can blame bush and the republicans for the failure and murderous chaos that will ensue"

Bingo. Last night I feared the Dems would immediately "Murtha-ize" the military and pull us out . . . until I logically came to your conclusion. They want us in there, but helpless (and they'll see to that with their obstruction, investigations, and de-funding) so they can blame Bush and the Republicans, using the bodies of our soldiers as targets.

[uncbob]

They want us in there, but helpless (and they'll see to that with their obstruction, investigations, and de-funding) so they can blame Bush and the Republicans, using the bodies of our soldiers as targets.

This isn't a draftee army like Vietnam

Volunteers won't put up with that crap

Dems would have to re-institute the draft