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New York Plans to Make Gender Personal Choice
The New York Times ^ | November 7, 2006 | DAMIEN CAVE

Posted on 11/07/2006 9:38:11 AM PST by Sopater

Separating anatomy from what it means to be a man or a woman, New York City is moving forward with a plan to let people alter the sex on their birth certificate even if they have not had sex-change surgery.

Should people be allowed to alter the sex on their birth certificate even if they have not had sex-change surgery? Under the rule being considered by the city’s Board of Health, which is likely to be adopted soon, people born in the city would be able to change the documented sex on their birth certificates by providing affidavits from a doctor and a mental health professional laying out why their patients should be considered members of the opposite sex, and asserting that their proposed change would be permanent.

Applicants would have to have changed their name and shown that they had lived in their adopted gender for at least two years, but there would be no explicit medical requirements.

“Surgery versus nonsurgery can be arbitrary,” said Dr. Thomas R. Frieden, the city’s health commissioner. “Somebody with a beard may have had breast-implant surgery. It’s the permanence of the transition that matters most.”

If approved, the new rule would put New York at the forefront of efforts to redefine gender. A handful of states do not require surgery for such birth certificate changes, but in some of those cases patients are still not allowed to make the change without showing a physiological shift to the opposite gender.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: gayagenda; kooky
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1 posted on 11/07/2006 9:38:12 AM PST by Sopater
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To: Sopater

The destruction of rationality and logic continues unabated.


2 posted on 11/07/2006 9:39:12 AM PST by dirtboy (John Kerry - the world's only re-usable political suicide bomber.)
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To: dirtboy
As Calvin Miller wrote somewhere in The Singer trilogy:

"Culture raved"

...and people think Mayor Bloomberg has great political potential? Not!

3 posted on 11/07/2006 9:41:43 AM PST by Tirian
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To: Sopater
Err, what about these:


4 posted on 11/07/2006 9:42:56 AM PST by cartan
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To: Sopater
If gender is merely a matter of attitude, why not speciation?

Hey, everybody, I'm a duckbill platypus.

No, really.

5 posted on 11/07/2006 9:45:20 AM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: dirtboy

This is definitely crazy. I know a few transexual people (about 3 or 4) and they have a lot of psychological baggage. Two of them have worked a lot of it out through therapy, but still, I just don't understand the phenomenon. I can understand one being gay--because it is an attraction. But the trannie thing is purely psychological (as is being gay)--Hey what if I don't want to accept being human and claim I am a hippo (if I don't watch my weight, they'll probably mistake me for one)---can I register myself as one?


6 posted on 11/07/2006 9:45:34 AM PST by brooklyn dave (Dhimmis better not be Dhummis!!!!------or else!!!)
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To: Sopater

OOH I wonder if we'll start to see bearded men with big boobs in NYC????


7 posted on 11/07/2006 9:46:36 AM PST by brooklyn dave (Dhimmis better not be Dhummis!!!!------or else!!!)
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To: cartan

well Number two looks a little funny!!!!


8 posted on 11/07/2006 9:47:37 AM PST by brooklyn dave (Dhimmis better not be Dhummis!!!!------or else!!!)
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To: Sopater

Marrying goats is right around the corner!


9 posted on 11/07/2006 9:48:22 AM PST by RexBeach ("Important principles may, and must be, inflexible." -Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Sopater

Can Eminem change his race to Black, and Michael Jackson change his to White?


10 posted on 11/07/2006 9:48:55 AM PST by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: Sopater

Perhaps this is a back door attempt to allow gay marriage. If this change goes into effect it will be impossible to tell who is male and female without performing a strip search.


11 posted on 11/07/2006 9:49:14 AM PST by lews
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To: brooklyn dave

We've discovered the gay gene! At last!


12 posted on 11/07/2006 9:49:36 AM PST by cartan
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To: Sopater

Ridiculous. Gender is not "constructed"


13 posted on 11/07/2006 9:49:49 AM PST by tdewey10 (Can we please take out iran's nuclear capability before they start using it?)
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To: Sopater
Is this legalizing Gay Marriage?
14 posted on 11/07/2006 9:51:16 AM PST by msnimje (You simply cannot be Christian and Pro-Abortion.)
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To: Sopater
New York City is moving forward with a plan to let people alter the sex on their birth certificate even if they have not had sex-change surgery.

Doesn't this mean that boys can now change their birth certificates and join the girls high school athletic teams and shower with them after the games?

15 posted on 11/07/2006 9:51:27 AM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: Sopater

It's too bad that only 5 years after 9/11 - the very city hit the hardest would enact such nonsense. You would think that the people in decision making positions would be on their knees every day praying to God and giving thanksgiving that they are still alive instead of walking around proudly making a mockery of the human race.


16 posted on 11/07/2006 9:51:46 AM PST by redlocks322
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To: Sopater
“Somebody with a beard may have had breast-implant surgery. It’s the permanence of the transition that matters most.”

If that's the case, what does that oh-so-permanent DNA say.

17 posted on 11/07/2006 9:51:54 AM PST by LexBaird (98% satisfaction guaranteed. There's just no pleasing some people.)
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To: Sopater
If approved, the new rule would put New York at the forefront of . . . queer moonbatty kookdom.
18 posted on 11/07/2006 9:52:38 AM PST by Petronski (Why won't Diebold talk about RYMB.DLL?)
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To: okie01; cyborg

And I'm a hairless yeti.

(I have a t-shirt to prove it.)


19 posted on 11/07/2006 9:53:24 AM PST by Petronski (Why won't Diebold talk about RYMB.DLL?)
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To: Sopater
affidavits from a doctor and a mental health professional laying out why their patients should be considered members of the opposite sex, and asserting that their proposed change would be permanent.

Sounds OK to me, as long as the doctor, mental health professional and patient are immediately fitted with strait jackets and committed to nearest loony bin!

20 posted on 11/07/2006 9:53:36 AM PST by maryz
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