New York Plans to Make Gender Personal Choice

The New York Times ^ | November 7, 2006 | DAMIEN CAVE

[Sopater]

Separating anatomy from what it means to be a man or a woman, New York City is moving forward with a plan to let people alter the sex on their birth certificate even if they have not had sex-change surgery.

Should people be allowed to alter the sex on their birth certificate even if they have not had sex-change surgery? Under the rule being considered by the city’s Board of Health, which is likely to be adopted soon, people born in the city would be able to change the documented sex on their birth certificates by providing affidavits from a doctor and a mental health professional laying out why their patients should be considered members of the opposite sex, and asserting that their proposed change would be permanent.

Applicants would have to have changed their name and shown that they had lived in their adopted gender for at least two years, but there would be no explicit medical requirements.

“Surgery versus nonsurgery can be arbitrary,” said Dr. Thomas R. Frieden, the city’s health commissioner. “Somebody with a beard may have had breast-implant surgery. It’s the permanence of the transition that matters most.”

If approved, the new rule would put New York at the forefront of efforts to redefine gender. A handful of states do not require surgery for such birth certificate changes, but in some of those cases patients are still not allowed to make the change without showing a physiological shift to the opposite gender.

[xusafflyer]

Only in America can a Black Man aspire to grow up to be a White Woman. (MJ)

[brooklyn dave]

Not technically, but it is part of the agenda to obliterate all distinctions between male and female.

[Positive]

"Is this legalizing Gay Marriage?"

Of course it is.

I was married twice, have you been married? If so did anyone require you to "prove" your gender?

They took my wives' and my word for it.

[meowmeow]

Great! I've always wanted to be Marklar!

[dirtboy]

Not only that, but if a man changes his gender to female, he can then get married to a male under state law. No changes to marriage laws required. That, IMO, is what is being attempted here.

[steve-b]

Reg: Furthermore, it is the birthright of every man —
Stan: Or woman.
Reg: Why don't you shut up about women, Stan? You're putting us off.
Stan: Women have a perfect right to play a part in our movement, Reg.
Francis: Why are you always on about women, Stan?
Stan: I want to be one.
Reg, Francis: What?
Stan: I want to be a woman. From now on, I want you all to call me "Loretta".
Reg: Wha'?
Loretta: It's my right as a man.
Judith: Well, why do you want to be Loretta, Stan?
Loretta: I want to have babies.
Reg: You want to have babies?!
Loretta: It's every man's right to have babies if he wants them.
Reg: But... you can't have babies.
Loretta: Don't you oppress me!
Reg: I'm not oppressing you, Stan, you haven't got a womb! Where's the fetus gonna gestate? You gonna keep it in a box?
[Stan/Loretta starts to cry.]
Judith: Here! I-I've got an idea. Suppose that you agree that he can't actually have babies, not having a womb — which is nobody's fault, not even the Romans' — but that he can have the right to have babies.
Francis: Good idea, Judith. We shall fight the oppressors for your right to have babies, brother. Sister, sorry.
Reg: Wh-what's the point?
Francis: Wha'?
Reg: What's the point of fighting for his right to have babies when he can't have babies?
Francis: It is symbolic of our struggle against oppression.
Reg: It's symbolic of his struggle against reality.

[jalisco555]

OOH I wonder if we'll start to see bearded men with big boobs in NYC????

LOL. Just go to any beach in the summer and you'll see plenty. They're not transgendered though, just large.

[brooklyn dave]

Well Christine Quinn is the head of City Council and she's a lesbian.

[Aquinasfan]

Separating anatomy from what it means to be a man or a woman, New York City is moving forward with a plan to let people alter the sex on their birth certificate even if they have not had sex-change surgery.

This is the (il)logical conclusion of allowing sex-change operations. It's no less insane than homosexual "marriage," and not surprisingly, it will enable "marriages" between men or between women.

[Jibaholic]

All this left wing wackiness reminds me of Star Wars when Obi Wan Kenobi faces Vader: "You can't possibly win Darth, strike me down now and I shall grow more powerful than you can possibly imagine."

The more the left gets their way, the more they make everyone realize that the wide gate does indeed lead to destruction. We need to be silent on these issues. If we give people Judeo-Christian values without the Judeo-Christian God, then we make it safe for them to rebel.

The single best thing we can do to win Christian convers (which means, ultimately, Republicans), is to give the left enough rope to hang themselves.

This does not apply to civil rights issues, such as abortion.

[Cobra64]

OOH I wonder if we'll start to see bearded men with big boobs in NYC????

Famous writer, producer, director spotted in California.

[The Old Crone]

Can Eminem change his race to Black, and Michael Jackson change his to White?

No need. They effectively did.

[Cobra64]

OOH I wonder if we'll start to see bearded men with big boobs in NYC????

Famous writer, producer, director spotted in California.

[Aquinasfan]

Ridiculous. Gender is not "constructed"

Of course not. But this idea has been pushed in academia for decades now. This is the way societal changes occur. First the ideologies become accepted in academia; then within decades they diffuse throughout society, eventually becoming common wisdom.

[2banana]

Law of unintended comsweuences - now boys can get the Title IX scholarships they have been quoted out of and now MANY set-aside, affirmative action and female only scholarships are FAIR GAME...

[antiRepublicrat]

Can Eminem change his race to Black, and Michael Jackson change his to White?

So I can change my sex to female and my race to black and take a ride on the affirmative action quota gravy train, and still be able to go to the white male-only country club. Sweeeet.

[Right Wing Assault]

I want to move to NY and register as Tri-sexual or possibly Quadra-sexual. Can I do that? Next year I might want to be Penta-sexual. Or maybe even Sexa-sexual. Ooh, that sounds fun.

[L98Fiero]

""Is this legalizing Gay Marriage?"

Of course it is."

Yep. That is the whole purpose of this. Very crafty. If Bruce and Stan want to marry all one of them has to do is have their sex changed on their birth certificate and bingo.

Can't redefine marriage? Then redefine gender.

[Right Wing Assault]

A college guy can change his sex to female, join the girls soccer team, and shower with them. And they can't complain, since he's a female.

[hosepipe]

Listen... you can hear the laughter in Osama's cave in Pakistan..
The infidel's have finally come unhinged..