[Kirkwood]

"I served in armed forces; and I own guns"

??? I fail to see the connection between this and urinating. I don't equate serving and gun ownership with manhood if that's what you meant.

[tubasonum]

"??? I fail to see the connection between this and urinating. I don't equate serving and gun ownership with manhood if that's what you meant."

Yeah, that's my impression of this thread. If you sit to piss, you are a lady. Why using a toilet seat in private places is considered effeminate? I also use a seat when I use bathroom at homes where I visit. Because I don't want the lady of the house to wipe stranger's urine splashes off their walls, sinks, or leave it on their towels. I don't think this concern makes me a lady, does it?