JVERITAS Responds to the 11/3 NYT Article Regarding Iraq Nuclear Program.

November 3rd 2006 | jveritas

[jveritas]

The New York Times article to be published on November 3rd 2006 is about the US putting some captured Iraqi documents on the Foreign Military Intelligence Office (FMSO) website that talks about what the NYT and the IAEA call sensitive information from Iraq 1996 "Full, Final, and Complete Declaration FFCD presented to the UN and IAEA in 1996 and that talks about Iraq nuclear clandestine program. The IAEA and the New York Times claim that Iran may be using some of the technology in this FFCD which is a laughable idea as shown below.

That is from the IAEA website regardinf their report on Iraq FFCD presented to them by the Iraqis in 1996: “ 3. On 7 September 1996 in Baghdad Iraq delivered what it considered to be the definitive version of the "Full, Final, and Complete Declaration" (FFCD-F) of the Iraqi clandestine nuclear programme. The IAEA with the assistance of technical experts from Member States undertook a comprehensive review of the document.” Link: http://www.iaea.org/About/Policy/GC/GC41/Documents/gc41-20.html

So the FFCD was discussed with member states experts of the IAEA. There are 142 members in the IAEA including Iran. I am not saying that the IAEA discussed the Iraqi FFCD with Iranians but the FFCD was not such a secret document and the Iranians would have been able to access it in one way or another if it really provide them with any useful information.

What is important in this whole issue is that the New York Times has ridiculed these documents all along and never payed attention to them including the very important documents that show Saddam regime never stopped its programs related to WMD including nuclear programs. These documents were translated and posted here on FR.

On the subject of nuclear program, I translated and posted a document last month dated January 2001 that shows with a shadow of doubt that Saddam was personally involved with his nuclear scientist to re-build the nuclear program. In this document it states that Saddam personally approved his Iraqi Atomic Energy Agency to re-use nuclear equipments that include something called “Degussa Furnaces” that were used in the previous and prohibited Iraq nuclear program. These furnaces can be used to melt uranium and other nuclear related activities. The Degussa Vacuum furnaces were supplied to Iraq in the 1980’s by a German firm (Degussa AG based in Frankfurt Germany) and these furnaces later on became the subject of investigations of the German firm in the early 1990’s where the company claimed that they did not know that Iraq would have used them in its nuclear program.

The New York Times had an article in 1998 titled “An Iraqi Defector Warns of Iraq's Nuclear Weapons Research” where the Degussa furnaces were mentioned as part of “previous” Iraq nuclear program and the controversy surrounding the sale of these furnaces and the investigations later on(link: http://www-personal.umich.edu/~sanders/214/other/news/iraqi_defector.html ). The irony is that this is not only a New York Times article but also it was written by JUDITH MILLER and JAMES RISEN once of the worst accusers (liars) that the Bush administration lied about Iraq WMD. Where are you Scott Shane????

Link to the translated document on FR: 2001 Iraqi Document: Saddam Approved the Re-Use of Nuclear Equipment http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1725141/posts

Moreover, there are documents dated 1999-2001 that talk about Saddam regime projects to re-build some of the nuclear program facilities like RWTS (Radioactive Waste Treatment Station) and Radio-Chemistry laboratories which were part of Iraq previous clandestine nuclear program. Link to the translated document on FR: Iraqi Documents: Projects to Rebuild Saddam Nuclear Facilities http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1718125/posts .

Also this one

Iraqi Documents Show Plans for Prohibited Nuclear Projects http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1709390/posts

[AliVeritas]

A ride down Al Qaqaa lane:

[sawoody]

Thank you JV for exposing the NYT hypocrisy. Media hypocrisy knows no bounds!

NYT now thinks Iraqi nuclear research is a threat???

The NYT now has a problem with publishing sensitive materials???

The NYT had no interest in translating captured Iraqi documents because they were concerned about revealing weapons secrets???

The NYT believes that Democrats are more credible on national security, and the true threat to our security is...Republicans exposing the content of captured Iraqi documents???

This NYT article is wrong on so many levels!

[CyberAnt]

Okay - now I get it.

I recall the other day when Rush was talking to the President - Rush brought up all the leaks and how angry the American people are about it and we're even more angry because nothing is being done about it.

The President's statement was very clear - the DOJ "is investigating". I don't remember the exact words - but I got the sense there was a lot going on underneath the surface. And .. while the Clintons loved to brag about the investigations they were doing (and I always thought it was a bull horn to the crooks to shread the evidence) - this admin prefers to keep the investigation under wraps.

[SeaBiscuit]

Thank you for helping to protect America.

[AliVeritas]

Let me guess the security experts that had a problem with the site.

Pincus, the VIPs and the usual suspects that pop up continuously when any question of WMDs Able Danger or anything else pops up. A lot of the Clinton era security and intel folk fancy themselves columnists... they also know they were working at the time in question, doesn't look good does it? I'm sure they pushed the Clintonistas still on the hill and in the agencies to shut the site down. There's a reason it took us so long to get the documents. It's always been said that said documents would damage many administrations... including ours.

If they want to look at something, maybe they can check out cryptome as well... they have the pictures and docs to match... as i'm sure the NYTs has been looking at for some time, they've used eyeballs on Cheneys house from there.

[rightinthemiddle]

I've sent a link to this thread to Drudge. We should all send it to him. It's the one place the MSM watches and reacts to.

BTW...have I told you what an Outstanding American you are, lately?

[AliVeritas]

Gateway's all over it.
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2006/11/nyt-saddam-was-year-away-from-building.html

[Grampa Dave]

Thanks to Jim Robinson, we have Free Republic and Freepers like jveritas.

No longer can the formerly powerful MSM spike real news and lie to us to control our thoughts and elections.

Kerry found this out this week with his DumbA$$ed slam against our military. Again the Ny Slimes, which is filled with Marxist Homosexual Lunatics posing as reporters get caught in more lies, spins and other malfeasances about Iraq.

jveritas rocks and so does Free Republic.

Every Freeper should be a regular or monthly donor to Free Republic to keep our weapon of truth and justice strong.

[vbmoneyspender]

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[holden]

They must have some sleazy motive behing this .. right ..??

As strategerist was showing us in the early (< #116) posts of the "Shocker NYT" thread, this is not about facts, but about what the NYT's "interpretation" was intended to be, despite the "surprisingly poorly-written and confusing article."

We're "mistaken" (again) if we try to analyze the facts on their own merits without their tar mounds of editorializing spin.

I'm left to believe they think they've timed this in nuanced fashion, such that the wave of bluster will have an edge in their favor, come Tuesday.

As with so many of their recent choices, they "chose poorly" this time, too.

HF

[SoFloFreeper]

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[FreedomProtector]

jveritas, you're a great American!

[Gvl_M3]

Here are the first replies. I'm not even going to get into it. If they don't want to read and think, then it isn't worth my time.

The italics are from another conservative and the regular are the responses to him.

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Sorry, Saddam had NO nuclear weapons program, NO WMD program and Saddam had NO connection to 9/11.

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It doesn't matter if they had it or not, all that matters is if we had reason to think they did.
There was also evidence that they didn't and good reason to think they didn't. Not only that, but it is immoral and unlawful to start a war simply because someone has reason to think someone else did something.

Personally, I think we didn't need a reason to invade Iraq. He was violating the terms of the cease fire agreement.
Well, that would be fine, if 1. that was the stated reason for the invasion and 2. those in the position to make that decision were informed, and 3. they agreed. But 1. it wasn't, and 2. they weren't, and 3. they wouldn't have.

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Saddam talked a lot - that much is obvious. And he needed to be kept from doing things like building nukes. But we had him pretty much under wraps as it was. There were plenty of alternatives to an invasion that would have kept Saddam from being any significant threat to the US and which would have been far less costly in lives and money.

[Velveeta]

Nicely done.

[1035rep]

Nicely done

Indeed!

[Buckhead]

Right on. Jveritas is doing fantastic work.

This is a great weak in the death spiral of the MSM. First we had the circulation reports showing virtually all newspapers going down the tubes. Then the old media tried to suppress the soldiers' banner responding to Kerry, and probably 50 million people saw it in less than 24 hours anyway. Now the NYT, in their lust to discredit Bush, has confirmed Saddam's nuclear weapons program.

We are witnesses to their death rattle. The new media and their own shortcomings are the instruments of their destruction.

[NutCrackerBoy]

Congress' Iraq War resolution did not stipulate any intelligence finding. It authorized the war for all the right reasons. At cannot be inferred that the information presented re WMDs and terrorist connections was the sole casus beli. There is a difference between making a foreign policy decision to finally topple a regime which has incontestably forfeited its right to exist, and the process of public disclosure.

[eureka!]

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[1035rep]

bttt

[TigersEye]

Thank you. That's a good thing.