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Mexico issues ultimatum to Oaxaca protesters
Yahoo News ^ | 10/28/06 | Pablo Perez

Posted on 10/28/2006 4:17:00 PM PDT by DaoPian

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To: StJacques

I suppose APPO and Obrador will do their best to disrupt both Fox's last days in office and Calderon's first days on the job.


21 posted on 10/28/2006 6:38:55 PM PDT by CedarDave (FReeRepublic:The big bad bully beating up defenseless ladies--only in your dreams, Chix; get over it)
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To: DaoPian
So what's the big deal?
Just send the troops in and start shooting everybody in sight.......
It's not like that hasn't happened before.......
Hey! It worked for Antonio López de Santa Anna in the estado de Zacatecas before he marched north to the territory which is now Texas.
(He caused the killing of over 4000 in Zacatecas if memory serves)
22 posted on 10/28/2006 6:42:10 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: ARealMothersSonForever

What better way for Mexico to solve it's communist problem than by "encouraging" them to emigrate to America?


23 posted on 10/28/2006 6:51:46 PM PDT by Rb ver. 2.0
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To: CedarDave

Obrador has nothing to do with this. V. Fox should have taken care of this last spring. He has done a pathetic job. Both Fox and Calderone are too worried about the fence to do their jobs. It is my guess and my guess only that Tony Garza, the U.S. Ambassador to Mexico, basically forced Fox to finally do something about Oaxaca.


24 posted on 10/28/2006 6:53:16 PM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: Rb ver. 2.0

That is the reason they are so worried about the fence. The fence will interfere with aLL the lefties.


25 posted on 10/28/2006 6:56:27 PM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: DaoPian
Mexico 1968 de ja vu. LOL.

Question from reporter: "How many protesters were killed?"

Answer from Mexican official: "It doesn't matter how many were killed. We would have killed as many as we had to."

26 posted on 10/28/2006 6:56:40 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: texastoo
Obrador has nothing to do with this.
Maybe not directly, but APPO is aligned with him, and last I heard he is still planning to disrupt Calderon as Obrador is still calling himself the legally elected president.

V. Fox should have taken care of this last spring. He has done a pathetic job.
So true on both counts.

Both Fox and Calderone are too worried about the fence to do their jobs.
I believe they have to make the fence a top priority publicly for political reasons, however I seriously doubt it freezes their ability to take care of governmental business and address other issues.

It is my guess and my guess only that Tony Garza, the U.S. Ambassador to Mexico, basically forced Fox to finally do something about Oaxaca.
I doubt the US can force Fox to do anything; he certainly hasn't cooperated on issues ranging from UN votes on Iraq to immigration. I'm sure we have had some consultation with the government, but beyond that the decisions are rightfully theirs to make. And if this whole thing goes ballistic with police/military action against APPO, the US needs to have had no part of it and no ties leading back to any involvement.

27 posted on 10/28/2006 7:48:05 PM PDT by CedarDave (FreeRepublic:The big bad bully beating up defenseless ladies--only in your dreams; get over it, Chix)
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To: StJacques

Seriously, I'd be kinda disappointed if they actually accepted the ultimatum. On the other hand, vowing to fight to the death is also a bit extreme. It's a real tragedy to be killed, but I'm glad people are beginning to realize how the left activists keep pushing this movement. Too bad for Fox, he almost could have waited this out, now he to is vowing to have this solved before Dec 1st. I keep thinking of that final scene in Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid.


28 posted on 10/28/2006 7:52:30 PM PDT by DaoPian
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American (White) Photographer Gunned Down In Mexico!

WTF?
  These guys are interested?!
29 posted on 10/28/2006 8:19:38 PM PDT by DaoPian
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To: CedarDave
...but APPO is aligned with him, ...

Link please!

I believe they have to make the fence a top priority publicly for political reasons,

Last week Fox or some of his officials went to the OAS and convinced 27 or 28 nations to join them against the fence. They have also threatened to take the fence issue to the UN. I believe their actions last week were somewhat more than for political reasons. They should have been dealing with Oaxaca instead of worrying about the fence.

This is the first I have read of Tony Garza speaking up regarding Oaxaca. Tis strange that something is finally happening since this is not the first killing in Oaxaca. Money talks.

30 posted on 10/28/2006 8:36:27 PM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: RightWhale
'Immediate' is a poor substitute for a deadline

I suppose it depends on how willing one is to enforce the word 'immediate'.....my defintion of immediate means 'now', this very point in time.....

31 posted on 10/28/2006 9:41:52 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse (Unite)
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To: texastoo
...but APPO is aligned with him, ... Link please!

Lots of links, especially during the election protests this past summer, but you have to go back a ways on FR to find them. Here is the most recent one I could find:

Lopez Obrador Attempts to "Oaxacanize" Mexico: Hoping Chaos will Force a New Election (Translation)

From that thread:

Another Sign of AMLO-APPO Identity, Difficult to Hide

Nearly 700 social and political organizations have decided to emulate the Oaxacan movement throughout the country, the Milenio article terrifyingly reports.

The myth of electoral fraud, AMLO's strategy thus transiting into the construction of the myth of ingovernability, seeing if with this one does manage to prevent the President-elect from taking possession [of his office] and forcing a new election.

In the growth of the APPOs in the Oaxacan style, AMLO seems to be finding his strongest point, but at the same time it appears that there APPO is finding its weakest point, in as much as it is strengthening its enemy, the Governor of Oaxaca, who is closing the ranks of institutional Mexico [behind him], showing an APPO used by AMLO in his scheme of making life impossible for the new government.

From which AMLO, from his perspective, has decided yesterday to plant among those who he considers his legislators an alert message against the application of the law and the use of public force against those he considers the new meat of ingovernability: the Oaxacan movement. While the Oaxacan leader Flavio Sosa himself took pains on Ezra Shabot's news program (W Radio) in a speech of affection for the law and separating [APPO] from the PRD, it is too late and unconvincing after the week's events.

32 posted on 10/28/2006 10:05:41 PM PDT by CedarDave (FreeRepublic:The big bad bully beating up defenseless ladies--only in your dreams; get over it, Chix)
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To: CedarDave
That was a very biased editorial. LOL

Lots of links

Give me some facts not just someones opinion.

33 posted on 10/29/2006 12:50:23 AM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: He Rides A White Horse

Immediately means right now, as in already happening next time the police look over there, not 30 seconds from now.


34 posted on 10/29/2006 8:21:24 AM PST by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: texastoo; StJacques
That was a very biased editorial. LOL Lots of links Give me some facts not just someones opinion.

What is your point? Obrador's party (PRD) and APPO are both radical leftist organizations. I see them as both dangerous to the stability of the country and a cause for concern for its future.

35 posted on 10/29/2006 6:25:42 PM PST by CedarDave (FreeRepublic:The big bad bully beating up defenseless ladies--only in your dreams; get over it, Chix)
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