If you want me to attack W ask me what a crappy job he is doing with the WOT which this immigration issue is one of. Why after 5 years did he get decided to sign a bill with a fence? Answer - so his party faithful can go home and declare victory. Why didn't he propose "meaningful immigration reform" in the last 5 years? The White House did not sponsor ANY bills on immigration reform on positions on what should be in the bill - almost splitting his own party apart.
The president had proposed comprehensive immigration reform that included, among other things, his priorities of a guest-worker program and a path to legalization and eventually citizenship for most of the 11 million or so illegal immigrants already here. The plan also called for verifiable IDs and employer sanctions. Bush got his comprehensive reform bill from the Senate, but it was Democrats who gave it to him — 38 Democrats voted for the measure, only four did not. The sharply divided Republicans voted 32 nay and 23 yea. Source: http://www.jdnews.com/SiteProcessor.cfm?Template=/GlobalTemplates/Details.cfm&StoryID=46085&Section=Opinion Comment: Yup the Dems gave it to him because it was good for them to go home and say they did. The Senate Reps were still asleep. • President Bush does not support amnesty because individuals who violate America's laws should not be rewarded for illegal behavior and because amnesty perpetuates illegal immigration. The President proposes that the Federal Government offer temporary worker status to undocumented men and women now employed in the United States and to those in foreign countries who have been offered employment here. The workers under temporary status must pay a one-time fee to register in the program, abide by the rules, and return home after their period of work expires. There would be an opportunity for renewal. In the future, only people outside the U.S. may join the temporary worker program, and there will be an orderly system in place to address the needs of workers and companies. o American Workers Come First: Employers must make every reasonable effort to find an American to fill a job before extending job offers to foreign workers. o Workplace Enforcement of Immigration Laws: Enforcement against companies that break the law and hire illegal workers will increase. o Economic Incentives to Return Home: The U.S. will work with other countries to allow aliens working in the U.S. to receive credit in their nations' retirement systems and will support the creation of tax-preferred savings accounts they can collect when they return to their native countries. o Fair and Meaningful Citizenship Process: Some temporary workers will want to remain in America and pursue citizenship. They should not receive an unfair advantage over those who have followed the law, and they will need to be placed in line for citizenship behind those who are already in line. Those who choose the path of citizenship will have an obligation to learn the facts and ideals that have shaped America's history. Source: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2004/01/20040107-1.html Comment: So in one paragraph W says he doesn’t support amnesty but three paragraphs later you can apply for citizenship if you are “temporary” but how you get from illegal to temporary is only paperwork. The program would grant temporary legal status to about 8 million immigrants, but it's not going to make the 9 million Americans who are out of work happy, and some of them vote. The most moving part of Bush's speech was this passage: "We see millions of hardworking men and women condemned to fear and insecurity in a massive undocumented economy. ... Decent, hardworking people will now be protected by labor laws with the right to change jobs, earn fair wages and enjoy the same working conditions that the law requires for American workers." It's always hard to know if Bush doesn't know or he doesn't care, but under his administration, Americans themselves are less and less protected by labor laws, including fair wage laws and working conditions, because Bush keeps cutting the enforcement staff at the Department of Labor and OSHA. Source:http://www.freepress.org/columns/display/1/2004/812 Comment: So if you are hard working and illegal we will grant you the first step of amnesty. OVER native citizens. If you are illegal you should live in fear and insecurity. “But what I do think makes sense is that a person ought to be allowed to get in line. In other words, pay a penalty for being here illegally, commit him or herself to learn English, which is part of the American system -- (applause) -- and get in the back of the line. In other words, there is a -- there is a line of people waiting to become legal through the green card process. And it's by nationality. And if you're a citizen here who has been here illegally, you pay a penalty, you learn English, and you get in line, but at the back -- not the front. And if Congress wants a shorter line for a particular nationality, they increase the number of green cards. If they want a longer line, they shrink the number of green cards per nationality.” Source: http://www.presidentialrhetoric.com/speeches/04.24.06.html Comment: So how the hell are you a citizen who has been here illegally? Fruedian slip, AMNESTY! And yet over the past several days, he confounded all those weary expectations by seeking a decent compromise on immigration policy that includes a "pathway to citizenship" for illegal aliens. Reaching out to Democrats as well as Republicans on Capitol Hill, he rejected the bigots in his own party and changed his own position to reflect a more realistic and humane approach to this difficult question. Source: http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2006/04/28/immigration/index_np.html Comment: Amnesty. (02-09) 04:00 PDT Washington -- The law signed by President Bush less than two months ago to add thousands of border patrol agents along the U.S.-Mexico border has crashed into the reality of Bush's austere federal budget proposal, officials said Tuesday. Officially approved by Bush on Dec. 17 after extensive bickering in Congress, the National Intelligence Reform Act included the requirement to add 10,000 border patrol agents in the five years beginning with 2006. Roughly 80 percent of the agents were to patrol the southern U.S. border from Texas to California, along which thousands of people cross into the United States illegally every year. But Bush's proposed 2006 budget, revealed Monday, funds only 210 new border agents. The shrunken increase reflects the lack of money for an army of border guards and the capacity to train them, officials said. Retired Adm. James Loy, acting head of the Department of Homeland Security until nominee Michael Chertoff takes over, said funding only 210 new agents was a "recognition that we need to balance those things as we go on down the road with other priorities." Source: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/chronicle/archive/2005/02/09/MNGOKB837T1.DTL Comment: NO FINANCIAL COMMITMENT! Mr. Bush in brief remarks to the press said there was agreement to get "a bill that does not grant automatic amnesty to people, but a bill that says, somebody who is working here on a legal basis has the right to get in line to become a citizen." But senators, speaking afterward, said Mr. Bush was far more specific in the meeting. Source: http://www.washtimes.com/national/20060426-121912-1269r.htm Comment: Yup, do the hokey pokey pay your fine and don’t forget to get here fast so you can get an early bird special of citizenship. “And so what you're seeing is, you're seeing a combination of fencing, cameras, infrared, and border patrol agents all doing their job. What we've done is we have boosted the amount of money available to our - to enforce this border. We're adding agents - we've added agents since I've become the President; we're adding more agents as a result of the bill I just signed; and we're adding infrastructure to make the city secure, as well as the rural parts of our border secure. So step one of a border control strategy is increase the resources so the people standing behind me are able to do their job. “ Source: http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/11/20051129-2.html Comment; As noted by Chertoff – never funded. Congress also passed a separate $34.8 billion homeland security spending bill that contained an estimated $21.3 billion for border security, including $1.2 billion for the fence and associated barriers and surveillance systems. “This is something the American people have been wanting us to do for a long time,” said Senator Jon Kyl, Republican of Arizona, whose state would be the site of substantial fence construction. Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff praised the money for border security. He said it would “enable the department to make substantial progress toward preventing terrorists and others from exploiting our borders and provides flexibility for smart deployment of physical infrastructure that needs to be built along the southwest border.” Some Democrats ridiculed the fence idea and said a broader approach was the only way to halt the influx. “You don’t have to be a law enforcement or engineering expert to know that a 700-mile fence on a 2,000-mile border makes no sense,” said Senator Richard J. Durbin of Illinois, the second-ranking Democrat in the Senate. Nevertheless, more than 20 Democrats moved behind the measure. The fence bill and homeland spending were among security-related measures the Republican leadership was pushing through in the closing hours to bolster their security credentials. Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/30/washington/30cong.html?ex=1317268800&en=4ac2ee35f706fb97&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss Comment: All of the sudden the Reps leaders in the Senate got religion on fence. The bill in April had no fence and amnesty in it. Do I need to go into what McCainiac did this summer after having a very nasty homecoming from his constituents? Every one of these articles contain direct quotes from W, a Rep leader or somebody in the Administration. I reassert my position that W did not want a fence and only signed the bill so the Reps could go home 14 days before the election and claim victory. Every position from the White House encourages the current problem with dangling a “path to citizenship”. I have gathered and had translated Hispanic flyers encouragig as many to get here as can before W is out of office. This extends into Central America also. Do you require more information? If so Google it yourself.
If you don't have anything substantive to say without cutting and pasting a bunch of paragraphs from left-winged newspapers like the NYT, then stop posting to me.
Haven't you heard of paragraph breaks? It's harder than hell to read without them.
But you have yet to prove that you can read minds, mad, and that's what you'd have to do to draw the conclusions you've drawn.
As for the rest of your tome, I have chosen not to read it. Perhaps if you broke it down into paragraphs I might be tempted, but taking that much time to read the words of someone who is both disrespectful and rude is something I choose not to do.
btw, I did read the first sentence, and if the President were doing a 'crappy job' in the War on Terror, we would have been attacked multiple times since 9/11. You lost that argument before it started.
Now if you wish to discuss his (IMO wrong) policies regarding immigration, you may do so, but no more encyclopedias, OK?
I am up to speed on what's happened, so you don't have to feel the need to educate me. Just discuss your POV...........in shorter segments, please.....