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To: conservative in nyc

That's a meaningless distinction. Whatever it is called (call it a Mirage if you want), they require that it be exactly the SAME as marriage.

I'll say the decision is illogical. They used an "equal protection" clause to say that a "pairing" of people have rights, rather than individuals. Thus, they said that a pair of males have their rights violated because a male-female pair can marry and the same-sex pair cannot. No "individual" has their rights violated, every male no matter what their preference have a right now to marry a female.

However, having decided that a male-male couple needs "equal protection", they then said that other types of couplings could still be discriminated against, most notably "polygamy".

However, to do so they must have decided that a government has NO COMPELLING REASON to prevent two men from being married, but the same government HAS a compelling reason to keep a man from marrying two women, or a woman from marrying two men, or a bisexual marrying both a man and a woman.

But while I can come up with a compelling reason to deny same-sex marriage (one being they can't have children, and therefore can't contribute to society what society needs, a coherent biological family unit), I can't think of a compelling reason why we wouldn't let 3 people get married.

I hope this pushes the Virginia amendment over the top. We were getting worried here about it, but this should show every virginian that the threat is real -- after all, we have an equal protection clause in OUR constitution as well.


316 posted on 10/25/2006 7:03:20 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT
They used an "equal protection" clause to say that a "pairing" of people have rights, rather than individuals.

Actually they invented an equal protection clause where none exists. This is from the opinion:

"The Court holds that under the equal protection guarantee of Article I, Paragraph 1 of the New Jersey Constitution, committed same-sex couples must be afforded on equal terms the same rights and benefits enjoyed by opposite-sex couples under the civil marriage statutes."
Here is Article I, Paragraph 1 of the New Jersey Constitution in full:
"1. All persons are by nature free and independent, and have certain natural and unalienable rights, among which are those of enjoying and defending life and liberty, of acquiring, possessing, and protecting property, and of pursuing and obtaining safety and happiness."
And here is Article 1, Paragraph 5 of the New Jersey Constitution which does address equal protection for certain groups and explicitly does not include sexual orientation as a protected category.
"5. No person shall be denied the enjoyment of any civil or military right, nor be discriminated against in the exercise of any civil or military right, nor be segregated in the militia or in the public schools, because of religious principles, race, color, ancestry or national origin."

330 posted on 10/25/2006 7:42:43 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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