I'm suggesting you should quit working with the leftists and or doing their dirty work for them. And you should quit insulting those of us who do believe in the Creator. If you guys want to prove the theory of evolution, more power to you. But don't use it as a tool to destroy our faith in God or to destroy our political and religious freedom.
And you should quit insulting those of us who do believe in the Creator. If you guys want to prove the theory of evolution, more power to you. But don't use it as a tool to destroy our faith in God or to destroy our political and religious freedom.
The insulting has not been one way nor evenly balanced. And science is not a tool used to destroy political or religious freedom. Science is apolitical. It has been made a political and a religious issue by those who feel is its discoveries threaten their religious beliefs. This has been going on since Galileo, and it's getting played out once again on FR in the conservative coalition. It's really sad and too bad. You've made your position clear to me and I respect that. However, I disagree.
The thing is that we aren't. The last ten years to fifteen years I worked in both geo-sciences (oil exploration) and in biology (DNA sequencing). Both of these fields were connected to the theoretical and applied sciences. The vast majority of people I worked had some measure of religious faith. Many of them were church (or synagoge) going people.
You are laying down friendly fire, because most scientists and engineers are conservative by nature. They are typically cautious, not prone to accepting a change without good reason, and desire results. They are patriotic people, generally pro-free enterprise people, many of them veterans too. They are *not* far-out Moveon atheist types that you would think they are from reading FR. The liberal arts may be filled with those types, but the physical sciences and engineering disciplines are not.
I generally had no problem talking politics with them, but they didn't want to vote Republican, because they perceived (wrongly or rightly, which seems to be the topic of this flamewar) that the GOP is filled with anti-science kooks.
Imagine yourself trying to talk to you coworker under these conditions, only to have him point you to a conservative site where scientists are labeled as maxist homosexuals. Boom. You lost him.