[dogbyte12]

That is the rub with libertarianism. Yes, you shouldn't be forced to wear a helmet while you are on your "donorcycle" as the ER doctors call them, but if you are making me help foot the bills, you sure are going to wear one if I have something to say about it.

Libertarian freedoms can only be advanced with responsibilities, there can't really be halfsies on this.

I am pro legalization for pot, but I also think every employer can make you pee in a cup if you want the job.

[Beagle8U]

"I am pro legalization for pot, but I also think every employer can make you pee in a cup if you want the job."

I have been the boss at more than one job, and the pee in a cup deal don't work very well if it costs the company $300-$500 every time for the tests.

With alcohol its easy and cheap to smell and test for, no so for pot etc.

Do you charge the employee $500 to be tested if everyone agrees they are acting goofy?

Its a more complex issue than some think it would be.

[antiRepublicrat]

That is the rub with libertarianism. Yes, you shouldn't be forced to wear a helmet while you are on your "donorcycle" as the ER doctors call them, but if you are making me help foot the bills, you sure are going to wear one if I have something to say about it.

Then I say we ban skydiving, football, BMX, mountain climbing, swimming, bathing, motorcycle riding, and just plain driving a car, because we all foot the bill for it.

This "we all pay" mentality is just another way to justify expanded government power and regulation over the minutiae of our lives, making us slaves rather than free people.