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To: Liberal Classic
The people that I am talking about are these people who voted on an FR poll. By the looks of it, fully one third of us are pro-science. I'm not talking about some fringe minority movement or the one percenters. The Republican party cannot win elections without the support of pro-science people like me.

Don't go too far out on that limb. I am among the one-third who voted with you on that poll, and I am indeed pro-science, but you do not speak for me. There are rational, reasonable people who accept evolution, and rational, reasonable people who accept creationism. But there are some in both camps who are neither rational nor reasonable. Do not fall into the trap of portraying Darwinism as some sort of modern Prometheus, a courageous champion bringing the light of knowledge to the ignorant masses. There are any number of evolutionists who accept evolution not because they find the evidence for it convincing, but because they are driven mad by the notion that someone, somewhere might be quietly believing in God. This is obvious from what they choose to fight about.

I have seen some terrible, unsupportable arguments brought by creationists on some FR threads... but I have also seen a ridiculous number of straw-man, false dilemma, appeal to authority and bandwagon fallacies used by the militant evolutionists. Crevo threads are remarkable for the dishonesty and irrationality exhibited on both sides.

P.S., there is no broad-based conservative war on science. There is a sizeable culture war against Judeo-Christian religion, though.

1,062 posted on 10/27/2006 12:46:35 PM PDT by Sloth (Never bring a megaphone to a bulldozer fight.)
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To: Sloth

We don't have to accept each others views on evolution, but we should respect the fact that we are all conservatives. Just because someone is an atheist or believes in evolution, it doesn't take away from the fact that they are conservative. Some here have equated Christianity with conservatism. That is wrong. Christians are a segment of conservatism, just like evangelicals are a segment of Christianity.


1,070 posted on 10/27/2006 1:01:44 PM PDT by satchmodog9 (Most people stand on the tracks and never even hear the train coming)
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