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To: melancholy
I know it is Halloween, but can you give the straw-man building a rest? Arguing with things I haven't said does nothing but waste both our time.

Sadr didn't kill anyone. It is claimed that his followers killed al-Khoei. Al-Khoei's family doesn't hold Sadr responsible.

Sistani has never made a public comment condemning Sadr's violence. If he did, it would carry a lot of weight.

It is Sistani's stature that is the best indication of a lack of a desire to get rid of Sadr. If he wanted to do so, it wouldn't be hard for him to make it happen. All he would have to do would be to tell those who want to do it that there wouldn't be any repercussions from his quarter.

81 posted on 10/25/2006 3:24:22 PM PDT by lugsoul (Livin' in fear is just another way of dying before your time. - Mike Cooley)
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To: lugsoul

Just heard an interesting comment on talk radio this morning.

Bush's overall strategy against the war on terror is false. It should be the war against islam, which is not just a religion but a poltical way of governance of all aspects of life. The only moderate muslims are those that are westernized and have chosen not to follow the hardcore portions of the koran. Can there be a moderate nazisim? Oh, nazism was outlawed in Germany. But have a islamic book that preaches death to infidels, but don't outright follow all the tenets, then everything is cool,....and just call your efforts "The War on Terror." As the commentator stated, terror is a tactic, not an enemy. Islamic teachings and political demands are the enemy and very few people want to recognize it. Bush doesn't.


92 posted on 10/26/2006 6:33:56 AM PDT by Tulsa Ramjet ("If not now, when?" "Because it's judgment that defeats us.")
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To: lugsoul
know it is Halloween, but can you give the straw-man building a rest?

Don't try to be funny or sarcastic, it doesn't become you. If you are capable of a serious conversation and willing to learn something; I'm all ears. Assuming that you are, here goes it :Sadr didn't kill anyone. It is claimed that his followers killed al-Khoei.

I didn't say that Sadr personally pulled the trigger, wise up, "leaders" never do! Al Zarqawi was a bloody exception.Sistani has never made a public comment condemning Sadr's violence. If he did, it would carry a lot of weight.

Very true. He couldn't without starting a Shiia on Shiia civil war which he's trying desperately to avoid/stop.It is Sistani's stature that is the best indication of a lack of a desire to get rid of Sadr.

Now you're talking! That's another reason that supports my previous point, don't you agree?If he wanted to do so, it wouldn't be hard for him to make it happen. All he would have to do would be to tell those who want to do it that there wouldn't be any repercussions from his quarter.

Again, very true. Go back to my answer about civil war. Particularly in the ME, appearances are supreme. You may viciously try to eliminate your enemies but, on the surface, everything is calm, civilized, and cordial. Praise your enemies in public and definitely, no verbal assaults. I'm sure this also applies in many parts of the world.

96 posted on 10/26/2006 7:27:52 AM PDT by melancholy (A new axis of evil: Nooks & Iranies allied with the "American" NeocoMs led by Abu Jack al Murthawi.)
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