[olde north church]

Holy cow. What happened to Alex P. Keaton of Family Ties? He was a republican in that and the old man was the whinney liberal. He must have switched roles.

Another irony is Michael Gross who portrayed the "whiney, liberal, old man" is a Conservative Republican, from most of what I've read.

[Marathoner]

Another irony is Michael Gross who portrayed the "whiney, liberal, old man" is a Conservative Republican, from most of what I've read.

That reminds me of Carroll O'Conner, of Archie Bunker fame, who I've heard is/was a big lib in real life.

Of course, Meathead is/was consistent throughout in real life.