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General May Increase U.S. Troop Levels in Baghdad
Assyrian International News Agency ^ | GMT 10-24-2006 15:21:38 | John O'Neil NYT

Posted on 10/24/2006 12:22:08 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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1 posted on 10/24/2006 12:22:10 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
The general said that at their current rate of development, in 12 to 18 months the Iraqi security forces "will emerge as the dominant force in Iraq," but said that even then some level of American support would be needed.
Daily KOS Translation: a CIA sponsered coup will install a US-compliant military junta in Baghdad.
2 posted on 10/24/2006 12:29:21 PM PDT by Asclepius (protectionists would outsource our dignity and prosperity in return for illusory job security)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

For those intrested in the facts about Iraq without the usual Junk Media Democrat Party spin.

http://icasualties.org/oif/

http://icasualties.org/oif/IraqiDeaths.aspx

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_Security_Forces


3 posted on 10/24/2006 12:47:34 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (EeevilCon, Snowflake, Conservative Fundamentalist Gun Owning Bush Bot Dittohead reporting for duty!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Gosh...is Maliki going to allow this?

I mean some of these troops might get too close to Sadr City and they're not allowed in there. Heaven forbid that the troops focus on the area that's causing most of the trouble.

4 posted on 10/24/2006 12:51:14 PM PDT by Allegra (Super Elastic Bubble Plastic!)
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To: MNJohnnie
Folks, I am a republican. I believe in constitutional principles. I vote for president Bush and republicans every single time. However, I am growing very weary of our role in Iraq. I am a Navy pilot. Millions of dollars have been put into my training. I have been on Sea duty for the past four years. Two years on a carrier and two years in a squadron. I am currently on deployment overseas for six months. I have a wife and four children. We had our youngest (10 months old) because I am owed a shore tour after this assignment and we planned for me finally to be home. I have rarely seen my children for the past four years and I have never been able to be involved in their lives the way you all take for granted(little league, PTA, etc....). Even when I am home I leave for work before my children wake up and come home after dark. As an officer, I work most weekends. My wife raises a 9,5,3 and ten month old by herself. We have no family near-by to help her. My nine year old is suicidal because of the stress of me not being around and my wife raising four children on her own. I come off deployment before XMAS and am I probably going to get sent to Iraq next summer for a year and a half doing convoy duty. A Navy pilot doing convoy duty! This is happening to alot of us. I know, tough sh_t, but professional military men like myself are not robots. We love our country and want to protect it from scum. I made a decision to make the military a career when I went to Annapolis, but I never imagined that I would be abused like I think I am about to be. They have me by the balls because I can't just leave 16 years of service with four children and a wife. I am very depressed about it. Guys are getting killed in droves just driving around town in Baghdad. I am not sure how I should feel about all of this, but I completely believe that we are being way too PC over there. We need to kick the crap out of those bastards or get the hell out and let them kill each other. What do you think?
5 posted on 10/24/2006 1:07:14 PM PDT by P3pilotJAX
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To: Allegra
Rush spoke last week of a Manhattan Project to turn Iraq & the gwot around.

God knows we need one.

6 posted on 10/24/2006 1:09:57 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: P3pilotJAX
A Navy pilot doing convoy duty!

Like you said, after them spending millions to train you this sounds rather irrational if what you say here is TRUE.

7 posted on 10/24/2006 1:12:10 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: P3pilotJAX


Hey P3,

Resign. There are plenty of other things for you to do. There are penty of other people to take your job. Your family should be your first concern.


8 posted on 10/24/2006 1:14:02 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (EeevilCon, Snowflake, Conservative Fundamentalist Gun Owning Bush Bot Dittohead reporting for duty!)
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To: P3pilotJAX; Pukin Dog
Hey Pukin, what do you think of this?

From P3piolotJAX: Folks, I am a republican. I believe in constitutional principles. I vote for president Bush and republicans every single time. However, I am growing very weary of our role in Iraq. I am a Navy pilot. Millions of dollars have been put into my training. I have been on Sea duty for the past four years. Two years on a carrier and two years in a squadron. I am currently on deployment overseas for six months. I have a wife and four children. We had our youngest (10 months old) because I am owed a shore tour after this assignment and we planned for me finally to be home. I have rarely seen my children for the past four years and I have never been able to be involved in their lives the way you all take for granted(little league, PTA, etc....). Even when I am home I leave for work before my children wake up and come home after dark. As an officer, I work most weekends. My wife raises a 9,5,3 and ten month old by herself. We have no family near-by to help her. My nine year old is suicidal because of the stress of me not being around and my wife raising four children on her own. I come off deployment before XMAS and am I probably going to get sent to Iraq next summer for a year and a half doing convoy duty. A Navy pilot doing convoy duty! This is happening to alot of us. I know, tough sh_t, but professional military men like myself are not robots. We love our country and want to protect it from scum. I made a decision to make the military a career when I went to Annapolis, but I never imagined that I would be abused like I think I am about to be. They have me by the balls because I can't just leave 16 years of service with four children and a wife. I am very depressed about it. Guys are getting killed in droves just driving around town in Baghdad. I am not sure how I should feel about all of this, but I completely believe that we are being way too PC over there. We need to kick the crap out of those bastards or get the hell out and let them kill each other. What do you think

9 posted on 10/24/2006 1:15:14 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (EeevilCon, Snowflake, Conservative Fundamentalist Gun Owning Bush Bot Dittohead reporting for duty!)
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To: P3pilotJAX
http://icasualties.org/oif/


Killed in droves driving around Baghdad? Hmm odd the casualty data doesn't back that claim up
10 posted on 10/24/2006 1:16:13 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (EeevilCon, Snowflake, Conservative Fundamentalist Gun Owning Bush Bot Dittohead reporting for duty!)
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To: P3pilotJAX

Thank You for your service to your country and your personal sacrifices. Not everyone is capable of doing what you are doing and putting up with the b.s.


11 posted on 10/24/2006 1:18:00 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (The fool hath said in his heart, there is no God." (Psalm 53:1))
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To: Allegra

Part of the statment today pointed out how the plan involves disarming and disbanding the Militas.

Sadr is either going to get squished or have to surrender.

Basically its is good cop Malikhi and bad cop US Military putting the squeeze on.

Frankly I wish they would just kill this twit.


12 posted on 10/24/2006 1:19:04 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (EeevilCon, Snowflake, Conservative Fundamentalist Gun Owning Bush Bot Dittohead reporting for duty!)
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To: MNJohnnie
"Killed in droves driving around Baghdad? Hmm odd the casualty data doesn't back that claim up"

Whatever...I stand corrected....not my point.....I don't mind getting killed for my country...it is what I am pledged to do....but give me a fighting chance doing what I am trained to do.....I will fly anything they want me to over there.......I just wanted to give you guys another perspective besides what Rush puts out.....
13 posted on 10/24/2006 1:20:22 PM PDT by P3pilotJAX
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To: txflake

Someone posted an article some time ago on troops retraining for other things. Pilots, marines, etc. No one knew what to make of it.


14 posted on 10/24/2006 1:27:55 PM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: P3pilotJAX

Thank you for serving, may GOD keep you safe and I hope you get out if your family situation is as you state. GOD bless your family!

We have on the ground in Iraq Freepers here... some having been in Baghdad for over three years. They certainly don't see things on the ground the way you seem to from the air... not that things are not hot right now.

LLS


15 posted on 10/24/2006 1:44:25 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: Allegra; MNJohnnie; P3pilotJAX; txflake; Marine_Uncle; Pukin Dog; reagan_fanatic; monkeywrench; ...
See this regarding Iranian involvement around Basra:

MP demands answers over Iran threat

It is posted in an earlier thread I put up.

16 posted on 10/24/2006 1:45:21 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: P3pilotJAX

exactly right.

we don't need more troops if their mission remains the same - convoys, checkpoints, patrols. Either use acute US force, or don't add troops.

Fire Casey, Abizaid, and anyone else who came up with this plan. Get some generals in there who can win this thing.


17 posted on 10/24/2006 1:46:40 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
North Korea should already be in rubble and Iran should be put on notice that they're next.

Or isn't this war?

18 posted on 10/24/2006 1:47:50 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: All
So many threads today...this one needs some eyeballs:

HUMINT: Bleeding Iraq

19 posted on 10/24/2006 1:48:04 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: MNJohnnie

we are losing most of our forces - not in direct combat engagements with the enemy - but via IEDs, car bombs, and ambush/bombings of other sorts, as they conduct a "policing" role, rather then a war.


20 posted on 10/24/2006 1:49:22 PM PDT by oceanview
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