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To: Heartlander; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; .30Carbine; YHAOS; hosepipe; Quix; editor-surveyor; ...
…. and on the 3 billionth day, nature accidentally shude forth chemicals and looked upon it without saying or thinking, “this is neither good or bad, it’s just chemicals, and I shall form these chemicals in no specific image and without intelligence”. Then plants, insects, fish, and man evolved from this shude without intelligence, each according to its own inane kind.

LOL!

From How Should We Then Live?, the Rise and Decline of Western Thought and Culture, by Francis A. Schaeffer

From the chapter: Manipulation and the New Elite :

....an article by Crick entitled "Why I study Biology." He gives a call for full genetic engineering at once and tells us what is his basic motive for studying biology:
My own motivation, which I have only touched on up to now, is rather elsewhere. It is difficult to say it in a few words. If you had to find a simple description of why I do what I do biological research, it is for philosophical and what you might call religious reasons.
A crucial part of the view of the life that he expounds, as we can clearly see from what he writes, is the ideas that man can be essentially reduced to the chemical and physical properties that go to make up the DNA template. Philosophically, therefore, Francis Crick is a reductionist, that is, one who would reduce man to an electrochemical machine. Such a view soon leads to the idea that man can and should be manipulated and even controlled....
....Francis Crick continues:
"The major conclusion which one draws from the present day biology is the importance of natural selection. The essence of natural selection, and this is the thing that people find very hard to accept, is that it's motivated by chance events. It is not preprogrammed but is driven by chance events. You can make an argument that chance is the only real source of true novelty."
Natural selection is not programmed; it is generated by chance. A little further on in the article, however, Dr. Crick says,
"You cannot lay down a general trend [for the course of evolution]; natural selection is cleverer then that. It will think of combinations and ways of doing things which haven't been foreseen"
In the Origin of the Genetic Code (1968) Crick begins to spell nature with a capital N about halfway through the book and in Of Molecules and Men he refers to nature as a "she." In other words, he personalizes what by definition is impersonal implications of impersonality, and because this kind of semantic mysticism gives relief to people caught in the web of the impersonal. By his own definition Crick lives in an impersonal universe, but by the connotation of the language he uses, Crick personalizes the impersonal universe and calls natural selection "clever" and says it will "think". Such language takes the pressure off, and people fail to understand what they have read....
This is common problem for the evolutionist, Dawkins does the same thing. As Crick personalizes his own impersonal universe when he called chance "clever" and says chance "thinks", Dawkins does the exact same thing when he calls chance a "Blind Watchmaker". Chance isn't a watchmaker at all, but the personal language of a watchmaker takes the pressure off.

using Francis Shaeffer's notes as a starting point, here are a couple of minor changes to an already outstanding post...:^)

…. and on the 3 billionth day, clever Nature guided only be chance which also happens to think accidentally shude forth chemicals and looked upon it without saying or thinking, “this is neither good or bad, it’s just chemicals, and I, the Blind Watchmaker [who really isn't personal in any way], shall form these chemicals in no specific image and without intelligence”. Then plants, insects, fish, and man evolved from this shude without intelligence, each according to its own inane kind.
Fridays are funky indeed and were definitely created for fun.
242 posted on 10/27/2006 7:42:03 PM PDT by FreedomProtector
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To: FreedomProtector

evos are truly remarkable creatures for their ability to ascribe to their TOE the ability to use cogent thought and "cleverness" in the ascention of life on this planet. If, as they claim, nature just "happened" and then evolved, where does thought and cleverness come in to play.

They want to have their cake and eat it too. We must not allow them to eat the cake, as they will only become fatter in their inanity.


243 posted on 10/27/2006 8:34:40 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Father of a 10th Mountain Division 2nd BCT Soldier fighting in Mahmudiyah)
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To: FreedomProtector; hosepipe; betty boop; YHAOS
Very well done:
Thanks to and thanksgiving for all of you for putting Wisdom on display here!
I sincerely appreciate you all, and thank you for keeping me pinged to your grand posts -
I've read and relished every word!
244 posted on 10/28/2006 2:54:14 AM PDT by .30Carbine
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To: FreedomProtector; Heartlander; Alamo-Girl; hosepipe; Doctor Stochastic
Crick personalizes his own impersonal universe when he called chance "clever" and says chance "thinks", Dawkins does the exact same thing when he calls chance a "Blind Watchmaker". Chance isn't a watchmaker at all, but the personal language of a watchmaker takes the pressure off.

Evidently Crick (and Dawkins) fail to notice the self-contradictions implicit in their statements, probably because they are blinded by their own ideology. They evidently have constructed alternative realities which are essentially irrational: What is the point of personalizing the impersonal? You cannot enter into rational discourse with such folks. By way of supporting evidence, let me cite the recent (most regrettable) "meltdown" WRT the evo/crevo debate at FR....

Thanks for the great post, FreedomProtector! And thank you Heartlander for your essay re: the "shude!" LOLOL!

247 posted on 10/28/2006 12:03:38 PM PDT by betty boop (Beautiful are the things we see...Much the most beautiful those we do not comprehend. -- N. Steensen)
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