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Germany jails homeschoolers
Catholic Standard Times ^ | October 2006 | Susan Brinkmann

Posted on 10/20/2006 7:08:55 AM PDT by NYer

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1 posted on 10/20/2006 7:08:56 AM PDT by NYer
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2 posted on 10/20/2006 7:10:04 AM PDT by NYer
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Sounds like teachers' unions in Germany are even stronger than ours are here.


3 posted on 10/20/2006 7:11:42 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("An empty limousine pulled up and Hillary Clinton got out")
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seek asylum in America"

Good reason why we need to keep homeschool friendly Presidents and AGs so that they have at least a bit of control over the INS definitions of asylum for religious persecution


4 posted on 10/20/2006 7:12:14 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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That's just what I thought. They'd love to have forced public education.


5 posted on 10/20/2006 7:13:34 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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Plett was placed under arrest. The officers followed her into the bedroom where she was permitted to change her clothes. Before being taken to nearby Gelsenkirchen prison, she was permitted to contact her husband, who had fled the country the day before with their 12 children. "

Good grief, the "offenders" were not even in the country. So you would think that the state at some point would concede that if they were not within their jurisdiction, then the state interest would start to wane?


6 posted on 10/20/2006 7:16:17 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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7 posted on 10/20/2006 7:17:28 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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The law says that parents who “continually or obstinately prevent their children from fulfilling the compulsory school attendance” be slapped with stiff fines or prison terms up to six months.

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I wonder if they've considered the fact that this will simply leave them with less Christian families? Much of Europe seems concerned with Muslim influence, yet this flies in the face of those concerns.

8 posted on 10/20/2006 7:17:32 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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It makes sense that NAZI's can't allow for parents to teach their children. Children must be indoctronated according to the guidelines established by the state. It is hard to impliment national socialism without proper indoctronation.
9 posted on 10/20/2006 7:18:17 AM PDT by Always Right
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I would think that, at least in the States, the horse has already left the barn, so to say. It appears that, in Germany, the government has no intention of letting that happen.


10 posted on 10/20/2006 7:19:14 AM PDT by Fudd
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Vee have vays to indoctrinate your children.


11 posted on 10/20/2006 7:19:50 AM PDT by east1234 (It's the borders stupid. It's also WWIV.)
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Much of Europe seems concerned with Muslim influence, yet this flies in the face of those concerns.

But socialists tend to fear Christian influence even more. And socialists make up a good portion of Europe.

12 posted on 10/20/2006 7:20:10 AM PDT by Always Right
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Please, Let them come here and Homeschool!
Of course they waould have to learn Spanish - English is opitonal.
13 posted on 10/20/2006 7:21:03 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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Remember this,elections are 17 days away and about half your neighbors are going to the polls to cast a vote for politicians who would gladly pass laws empowering goverment here in the USA to pull the same kind of violation of civil rights that was done in Paderborn, Germany.Vote GOP it's the only chance you've got to hold onto those rights !!!


14 posted on 10/20/2006 7:22:01 AM PDT by Obie Wan
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But socialists tend to fear Christian influence even more. And socialists make up a good portion of Europe.

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I'm sure that's part of it, but they will rue the day they went down this road.

15 posted on 10/20/2006 7:23:41 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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It's a matter of priorities. The German law puts the right of the children to be protected from childwork, homeschooling etc. higher then the right of the parents to decide what special kind of education their children might get.

Looking at the high number of muslim and other immigrants I can only hope we keep this law - otherwise we loose young muslims to the imam schools.


16 posted on 10/20/2006 7:25:25 AM PDT by Rummenigge (there's people willing to blow out the light because it casts a shadow)
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This is what Hillary and the liberals as a group want here.


17 posted on 10/20/2006 7:31:27 AM PDT by SeƱor Zorro ("The ability to speak does not make you intelligent"--Qui-Gon Jinn)
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Homeschooling, along with any educational institution other than state-run schools, was outlawed by Adolf Hitler in 1938.

WTF?

The human rights court ruled: “Parents may not refuse the right to education of a child on the basis of their convictions,” adding that the right to education “by its very nature calls for regulation by the state.”

The ACLU would love it there.

18 posted on 10/20/2006 7:31:37 AM PDT by Cymbaline (I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stress I repeat myself when under stres)
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Most european muslims already attend private religious schools where they are indoctrinated my imams.
Apparently these Christian homeschooling parents need to create their own private religious schools, after which the Eurabian governments would bend to their every whim as they do to the muslims.
19 posted on 10/20/2006 7:32:48 AM PDT by Sisku Hanne (*Support DIANA IREY for US Congress!* Send "Cut-n-Run" Murtha packing: HIT THE ROAD, JACK!)
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To: Fudd

Having lived in Germany for a dozen years...I can offer some insight.

Teachers consider themselves highly educated and thus certified to do what they do. They see no reason for an untrained or non-certified teacher to exist. They use the same mentality for business executives....they all have master degrees or higher. You can't find a major business in Germany with more than 300 workers that has a company owner or CEO without the business degree. The banks work to limit loans to storng growth companies with such leadership. It all goes full circle....you have to be educated...to be in charge.

Add to this...schools and school funding all are directly tied to the local population. If you have 30,000 people in the local town...then your educational czar gets a certain amount of money and runs the mass system (lower school, mid-school, and college-bound-high-school). If you took 100 kids out of the system in that community...you'd mess up the statistics here and create a tidal wave of issues.

And finally...getting a degree in Germany is a highly "class" affair. Only the smart guys get a degree...don't you know? I was told this several years ago by a German. The education sector severaly limits the kid's progress in life. If you are a person prone to arguments...at age 10...forget about college. The teachers will ensure your road to higher education is screwed up. To make it to the college direction...you MUST have artist talents (no joke). If you can't paint or draw...you've got a major strike against you and its doubtful you can overcome that problem. Its the same way with organizing your book pack each morning. For a 11-year old German kid...each day is a totally different group of classes...just like in a US college system. You must demonstrat your ability to organize your books and bring the right ones...otherwise...you start having points deducted from your grades...which you can't make up.

All in all....the German system is great to get you on the fast track for learning. A 14-year old German kid is as smart as a 17-year old Armerican kid...this I can vouch. But the number of kids left behind in the German system...would shock you. And the amount of tudor service you have to hire...to keep your kid on the smart track...will run around $1500 a year if you take this serious....and we are talking about a 13-year old kid requiring a tudor just to pass with decent grades.


20 posted on 10/20/2006 7:32:58 AM PDT by pepsionice
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