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Is God dead? Atheism finds a market in U.S
Reuters ^
| 10/18/06
| Michael Conlon
Posted on 10/18/2006 5:25:05 PM PDT by wagglebee
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To: headstamp
".......and the breakdown of church-state separation......." OK, my BS meter just went off. Oh, my BS meter went off well before that. He couldn't even get to the second sentence without lying:
"President George W. Bush uses his first veto to deny funding for stem cell research..." he said in an interview.
There is plenty of stem cell research going on. By the way, Bush is the first President to provide ANY money for stem cell research. The federal government is supporting research with adult stem cells, cord blood stem cells and existing fetal lines of cells. The adult cells have resulted in dozens of successful therapeutic applications. The fetal cells have caused tumors.
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posted on
10/19/2006 6:11:57 AM PDT
by
Mrs. Don-o
(BS detector on line.)
To: Junior
Wrong. Collection plate is not a "trapping" but an unchangeable essence. You are purposefully confusing an ideology and a religion. And although these always have reciprocal claims on each other's turfs, they are different: one exists to be behaved, but not necessarily to be believed in, while another exists to be believed in, but not necessarily behaved. Indeed, sincere adherents to the "wrong" side - an ideological believer, or a religious behaver, [aka "saint"] are royal pains and embarrassments in the real life, and this further confuses.
122
posted on
10/19/2006 6:12:19 AM PDT
by
GSlob
To: Junior; metmom
I mean, he isn't really going to die...
Junner... Junner! <sigh>
Repeating THIS old message??
Genesis 3:1
Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, "Did God really say, `You must not eat from any tree in the garden'?"
You KNOW what the Book says, so you must have inside knowledge about stuff that the rest of us are not privy to:
NIV Matthew 27:50
And when Jesus had cried out again in a loud voice, he gave up his spirit.
NIV Mark 15:37
With a loud cry, Jesus breathed his last.
NIV Luke 23:46
Jesus called out with a loud voice, "Father, into your hands I commit my spirit." When he had said this, he breathed his last.
NIV John 19:30-37
30. When he had received the drink, Jesus said, "It is finished." With that, he bowed his head and gave up his spirit.
31. Now it was the day of Preparation, and the next day was to be a special Sabbath. Because the Jews did not want the bodies left on the crosses during the Sabbath, they asked Pilate to have the legs broken and the bodies taken down.
32. The soldiers therefore came and broke the legs of the first man who had been crucified with Jesus, and then those of the other.
33. But when they came to Jesus and found that he was already dead, they did not break his legs.
34. Instead, one of the soldiers pierced Jesus' side with a spear, bringing a sudden flow of blood and water.
35. The man who saw it has given testimony, and his testimony is true. He knows that he tells the truth, and he testifies so that you also may believe.
36. These things happened so that the scripture would be fulfilled: "Not one of his bones will be broken,"
37. and, as another scripture says, "They will look on the one they have pierced."
Help us out a bit; can you?
123
posted on
10/19/2006 6:12:36 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
To: js1138
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So according to you God and Jesus Christ are both liars, and Jesus never really died at all. Your question makes no sense, unless Jesus is not God. |
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Uh... that wasn't a question. |
124
posted on
10/19/2006 6:15:45 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
To: wagglebee
To: mc6809e
Another argument in favor of broader exposure to language arts.
126
posted on
10/19/2006 6:18:45 AM PDT
by
Mrs. Don-o
(BS detector on line.)
To: <1/1,000,000th%
127
posted on
10/19/2006 6:19:31 AM PDT
by
wagglebee
("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
To: wagglebee
No kidding.
What a load of manure. I actually couldn't read the whole article.
To: <1/1,000,000th%
I'm not sure anybody did.
129
posted on
10/19/2006 6:22:09 AM PDT
by
wagglebee
("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
To: GSlob
But the atheists do not. Ah... but they DO!
Their's is in their pocket, so the money never goes very far from their control.
130
posted on
10/19/2006 6:22:10 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Personal opinion: MOST of the professed Christians have been marginal, or non believers. Probably throughout history. Sheer fear of condemnation, peer pressure and perhaps the belief that religious morality is good for society even if based on nothing other than delusion have led them to supporting churches, attending, professing. With the greater acceptance of alternatives to mainstream Judeo/Christian practice - atheism, Wicca, and othe occult - we are seeing in an overt form what has probably existed since shortly after Peter preached, or at least since the time of Constantine.
One of the most rock-ribbed, upright, 'moral' staunch conservatives I know does NOT believe, but he strongly supports his church, the Republican candidates nationally and in his area and to ALL external appearances is the very model of what a good conservative Republican should be. Because, being an entrepreneur he worships only what WORKS, and the Judeo-Christian, capitalist American style constitutional republic is the most productive and effective system of economic and political liberty creation and preservation ever known (paraphrasing him)
131
posted on
10/19/2006 6:22:14 AM PDT
by
RedStateRocker
(Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA)
To: Junior
(Losing faith in humanity one person at a time.)
(Losing faith in JESUS one Person at a time.)
132
posted on
10/19/2006 6:23:00 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
To: Junior
Well, pretty soon this forum is going to be nothing but a one-note amen corner instead of the free-wheeling political discussion site it used to be.
Boo hoo!
(Reminds me of a punch line....
"There's TWO of them!"
133
posted on
10/19/2006 6:24:13 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Well, thanks for the ping, I guess. I don't really see the point of books on atheism, so I don't bother with them.
134
posted on
10/19/2006 6:24:15 AM PDT
by
MineralMan
(Non-evangelical Atheist)
To: Junior
There is no appeal to the supernatural at all.Sure there is!
"Leave me alone!"
135
posted on
10/19/2006 6:25:05 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
To: hripka
(You got teenagers yet?? ;^)
136
posted on
10/19/2006 6:27:52 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
To: Celtjew Libertarian
Actually quite interesting passages, particularly the first two, when read in context.
Indeed. Any rational Jew who seeks an reason behind the sufferings of the Jewish people need look no further than the prophets of his own people.
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posted on
10/19/2006 6:30:40 AM PDT
by
Old_Mil
(http://www.constitutionparty.com/)
To: wagglebee
All Christians must accept many things on faith that "do not make sense":
- The Trinity.
(There is at LEAST a 'binary'!)
NIV Genesis 1:26
Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."
NIV Genesis 3:22
And the LORD God said, "The man has now become like one of us, knowing good and evil. He must not be allowed to reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life and eat, and live forever."
138
posted on
10/19/2006 6:30:44 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
To: Elsie
One more...........
NIV John 6:24-29
24. Once the crowd realized that neither Jesus nor his disciples were there, they got into the boats and went to Capernaum in search of Jesus.
25. When they found him on the other side of the lake, they asked him, "Rabbi, when did you get here?"
26. Jesus answered, "I tell you the truth, you are looking for me, not because you saw miraculous signs but because you ate the loaves and had your fill.
27. Do not work for food that spoils, but for food that endures to eternal life, which the Son of Man will give you. On him God the Father has placed his seal of approval."
28. Then they asked him, "What must we do to do the works God requires?"
29. Jesus answered, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent."
139
posted on
10/19/2006 6:32:55 AM PDT
by
Elsie
(Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going....)
To: Elsie
A major component of modern atheism is the unwillingness to admit that certain things are sinful, and not just sinful "for some" (as they love to opine), but sinful for everyone.
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posted on
10/19/2006 6:33:12 AM PDT
by
wagglebee
("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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