To: Coyoteman; RunningWolf
Creationists, amateur and otherwise, on the other hand, seem to have no reluctance to tell even the most experienced scientists...
I can't speak for others, creationists or otherwise. The point that I have been trying to make on these threads is that you can't make a determination regarding species differentiation based on homology. DNA comparison between living animals has show that homology is not a reliable method for determining a common ancestor.
Evolutionists, amateur or otherwise, seem to have no reluctance to ignore the evidence that is counter to commonly held evolutionist beliefs. All of the evidence supports the truth. None can be ignored, and all interpretations of the evidence must be recognized for exactly what they are, or we have abandoned science and adopted ideology. Consensus to a theory or belief is not additional evidence for said belief.
70 posted on
10/19/2006 7:04:26 PM PDT by
Sopater
(Creatio Ex Nihilo)
To: Sopater
All of the evidence supports the truth. None can be ignored, and all interpretations of the evidence must be recognized for exactly what they are, or we have abandoned science and adopted ideology. The modern creationist talking points that "all interpretations of the evidence must be recognized for exactly what they are" and "we agree on the data, we just have a different interpretation" are additional attempts to defeat the theory of evolution without knowing anything about the theory of evolution.
In science, not all interpretations are of equal merit. First, there are hypotheses, theories, and laws. There are guesses and educated guesses. The phlogiston theory of chemistry is discredited, and astrology never made the grade as a theory.
In a similar vein, creation "science" and its offspring ID have both failed at their attempts to mimic science while peddling pure religion. The "different interpretation" attempt we are seeing more of lately is also failing.
71 posted on
10/19/2006 7:19:02 PM PDT by
Coyoteman
(I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
To: Sopater
Consensus to a theory or belief is not additional evidence for said belief. Absolutely! Personally, I believe that hordes of invisible, all-powerful, Undetectable Garden Gnomes are responsible for the world as we see it. Science cannot conclusively disprove my interpretation of the evidence. I demand that UGGism be presented alongside the crumbling, demolished theory of evolution.
73 posted on
10/19/2006 7:38:42 PM PDT by
blowfish
To: Sopater
You make some valid points there Sopater. Labeling you as 'creationist' and your points as 'talking points' is only an attempt to put you into a box they will then paint with a broad brush.
By the way, what Mr. Coyote puts up as evidence (flow charts, skull arrangements) is not evidence or rather it is evidence but not in the manner he thinks. What do PHD's papers and other such works ultimate represent? A mans work/s. How many PHD degrees were awarded on the PiltDown Man fraud before it was discovered? 100? 500? who can say for sure without going to each University and doing the historical research. A conservative estimate would be at least 100
Evolutionists fight attacks on Darwin with the fervency of a religious zealot. Based on their faith that the mechanism of evolution is a foregone conclusion, these scientists have abandoned the scientific method articulated by Karl Popper.
74 posted on
10/19/2006 8:10:35 PM PDT by
RunningWolf
(2-1 Cav 1975)
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