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FBI director wants ISPs to track users
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| 10/17/2006
| Declan McCullagh
Posted on 10/17/2006 10:08:05 PM PDT by Panerai
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To: Panerai
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posted on
10/17/2006 10:48:15 PM PDT
by
cynwoody
To: Sir Gawain
Terrorists plan terror in houses and apartments all over the U.S.. We need cameras in every private abode as:Attorney General Alberto Gonzales, for instance, told Congress last month that "this is a national problem that requires federal legislation."
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posted on
10/17/2006 10:49:29 PM PDT
by
philetus
(Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
To: weegee
Hey look, the Internet is a wide open readable field of information.
What makes you think it all isn't gathered filtered and monitored down to every word?
I figure the only reason they are asking for the permission on the ISP thing is due to them having to eventually have a legal way to attach them to what they already know exists.
It's open public pathways and they are monitored.
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posted on
10/17/2006 10:50:11 PM PDT
by
A CA Guy
(God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
To: cynwoody
Sounds like TOR is a haven for perverts.
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posted on
10/17/2006 10:51:38 PM PDT
by
philetus
(Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
To: philetus
Terrorists plan terror in houses and apartments all over the U.S.. We need cameras in every private abodeChild molesters are everywhere, and they can look like anyone! Obviously, the only solution to this CLEAR and PRESENT problem is to incarcerate every American over the age of 17.
Please think of the children.
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posted on
10/17/2006 10:52:33 PM PDT
by
Wormwood
(Everybody lies, but it doesn't matter because nobody listens.)
To: A CA Guy
I figure there is at least one Fed in FR at all times.
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posted on
10/17/2006 10:52:48 PM PDT
by
philetus
(Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
To: Sir Gawain
do a ZABA search for alberto gonzales.
they are as thick as cucaraches
To: philetus
I think that there would be people reading this for good ideas connected to the Feds and I hope being a lot of people here are very smart, but IMO this forum is more likely to pray for America than prey upon it.
I think there are no worries no matter who looks here IMO.
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posted on
10/17/2006 10:55:12 PM PDT
by
A CA Guy
(God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
To: Panerai
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posted on
10/17/2006 10:55:33 PM PDT
by
lesser_satan
(EKTHELTHIOR!!!)
To: philetus
Why stop there, with today's technology, a listening chip could be installed in every American citizen, that could be activated that would "broadcast" every word spoken.
Of course, certain words could be set-up for "auto activation" such as anything against the government or officials.
To: philetus
I figure there is at least one Fed in FR at all times.Please remain in view.
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posted on
10/17/2006 10:55:41 PM PDT
by
Wormwood
(Everybody lies, but it doesn't matter because nobody listens.)
To: Wormwood
Child molesters are everywhere, and they can look like anyone! Obviously, the only solution to this CLEAR and PRESENT problem is to incarcerate every American over the age of 17."
You realize the wardens would be children?
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posted on
10/17/2006 10:55:43 PM PDT
by
philetus
(Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
To: philetus
You realize the wardens would be children?Why do you hate America? /s
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posted on
10/17/2006 10:57:07 PM PDT
by
Wormwood
(Everybody lies, but it doesn't matter because nobody listens.)
To: A CA Guy
The big problem is not the known ISP address regarding the net IMO, but when a wireless laptop goes to some public or free business source and does bad things or communications on the net. That kind of stuff is much harder to trace. Yes, well, then the feds will have to start having people register their net adapters. Every adapter has a unique MAC address hard coded into it, which is then associated with its assigned IP address.
CompUSA sales droid: Can I help you sir?
Customer: Yes, I'd like this ethernet adapter please.
CompUSA sales droid: Of course sir. If I could just have you fill out this "yellow sheet", we'll get you taken care of.
Yes, I know there is MAC spoofing, but if this crap is allowed to pass, then that will become a felony, even if used for private in-house puposes. And then there's IPv6, where we'll have enough address space to assign an IP address to to every electronic device produced for the next millenium. All registered with your friendly Big Brother.
And of course to follow up; the feds will require that any and all ISP/AP's be registered, and that all have back doors for the NSA supercomputers to download and parse their daily transaction logs.
Next we'll hear from the folks who'll insist that: "If you have nothing to hide, you don't have anything to worry about."
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posted on
10/17/2006 10:57:46 PM PDT
by
AFreeBird
(If American "cowboy diplomacy" did not exist, it would be necessary to invent it.)
To: AFreeBird
Next we'll hear from the folks who'll insist that: "If you have nothing to hide, you don't have anything to worry about."I'm sure it will sound more pithy coming from Tony Snow.
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posted on
10/17/2006 10:59:56 PM PDT
by
Wormwood
(Everybody lies, but it doesn't matter because nobody listens.)
To: Wormwood
Why do you hate America? /s"
HUH?
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posted on
10/17/2006 11:00:30 PM PDT
by
philetus
(Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
To: philetus
Please have your sarcasm detector serviced. My irony emitter seems to be in working order.
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posted on
10/17/2006 11:02:13 PM PDT
by
Wormwood
(Everybody lies, but it doesn't matter because nobody listens.)
To: AFreeBird
You will always get around it.
Even lots of homes have open wireless and a bad guy can detect and use the net without entering your home.
I hear in parts of CA you can ride in your car up and down some major streets and maintain Internet contact.
In Fullerton and most libraries across the nation, there is free undetectable wireless Internet.
That is the biggest insecurity when dealing with bad guys IMO.
38
posted on
10/17/2006 11:03:50 PM PDT
by
A CA Guy
(God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
To: A CA Guy
Starbucks all have free wireless.
Maybe Starbucks is a front.
Do FBI agents eat a better class of pastries?
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posted on
10/17/2006 11:07:31 PM PDT
by
philetus
(Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get.)
To: philetus
Starbucks gives you time in exchange for money spent.
There are other places that do have open wireless.
Restaurants, libraries, cities, hotels and things we are not thinking of.
There are some websites where you can look up these spots.
Called hot spots I think.
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posted on
10/17/2006 11:09:55 PM PDT
by
A CA Guy
(God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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