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To: untrained skeptic
I don't know how to change that reality. I do know that complaining about it does very little by itself. I also no that refusing to make a choice because neither of the choices is desirable is a solution.

If you're willing to accept a politician who stabs you in the back, just because his opponent is worse, you'll always get stabbed in the back.

Perhaps next election it will be safer to "send a message" than this one, but you can bet the RINOs will do everything they can to see that it isn't.

RINOs and Democrats play "good cop/bad cop". People need to realize the "good cop" is not their friend.

37 posted on 10/16/2006 8:47:15 PM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: supercat
If you're willing to accept a politician who stabs you in the back, just because his opponent is worse, you'll always get stabbed in the back.

If I don't accept the candidate "who stabs me in the back" over the opponent that is worse, I still get either him or his even worse opponent. Not choosing doesn't change that.

Perhaps next election it will be safer to "send a message" than this one, but you can bet the RINOs will do everything they can to see that it isn't.

The fact that there are so many RINOs does appear to guarantee that if there is a Republican majority it won't be a conservative majority. Therefore very little that conservative voters want done gets done. The government keeps growing in size and in how it interferes in our daily lives.

I don't disagree with that. However, if you put Democrats in office, in most cases things will be even worse. If they have the majority they will also set the agenda. Instead of the true conservatives trying to push through good laws, they will spend all their time fighting bad laws.

I agree that the many in the Republican party have become liberal in their views. They push more government as the solution to every problem. We do need to change that. We need to unseat the RINOs in the primaries. That is something that very rarely happens, but there does appear to be a trend of primaries becoming closer races as more conservatives reject RINOs.

However, what message does withdrawing support from a RINO send? It tells the Democrats that the Republicans are defeatable. For many people the message will be that the voters have become more liberal and that more "moderate" Republican candidates are the ones who have a chance of winning (RINOs). Here in Ohio, the State Republican Party leadership is made of of mostly RINOs. They are not going to throw their weight behind a conservative candidate, because conservatives would take them out of positions of power in the party.

They instead back RINOs in primaries and we see them attacking candidates like Blackwell because of how his plans to cut taxes and limit the growth of government might prevent the State from being able to give local governments money for things like a fire engine.

That was actually in an attack add by Petro against Blackwell in the primary for the governor's race. How dare Blackwell attempt to reduce taxes when it might in some theoretical case prevent the state government from being able to provide money for the "needs" of local governments.

The choice you offer is no choice. The message you want to send isn't going to be clear. If it is a clear message by the majority of Republicans, then you'll be able to send it clearly in the primary.

Part of life is making hard choices. Refusing to accept reality and neglecting to make those choices is irresponsible.

RINOs and Democrats play "good cop/bad cop". People need to realize the "good cop" is not their friend.

True. But I'm not claiming RINOs are my friend. However in some cases they are the least bad of two bad choices.

You should educate yourself on the issues and on the candidates views and voting records on those issues, and then make an informed vote for the better of the two candidates.

39 posted on 10/17/2006 6:15:45 AM PDT by untrained skeptic
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