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To: js1138
I enjoy discussing problems/assumptions with dating methods or the improbability of evolution from common descent or homologous structures or whatever any other related topic.

Why is it that every time the origin of life is mentioned with discussing the origin of all of life, evolutionists get really uncomfortable and want to change the subject?

Would you rather talk about the probability of the human brain developing by chance and natural process alone in any large amount of time you choose? I am more than happy to do that....: )

Frankly, sticking with a the probability of a single cell may be a better course of action for you, if debate is the most important thing at stake here....but I am not spending by time here to "score points" in arrogant debate. I am spending my time here because I care about you even though have I never met you. You are correct when you state evolutionists don't know how life began by chance and natural process. Science and natural process cannot explain it or reproduce it. God does exist, and the miracle of life is evidence of it. You live in a world created by God whether you acknowledge Him or not. Although the miracle of the resurrection of Jesus Christ cannot be repeated by laboratory experiments, it is documented by independent eye witness accounts of those who observed it. When a brilliant scientist named Blaise Pascal died, there was a piece of parchment on which Pascal recorded the decisive experience when his heart was changed. The testimony was found sewn into his clothing after his death. It appears that he carried it with him at all times. Among the items written on it which included several verses, personal statements of faith and the repeated name of Jesus Christ was: "Joy, Joy, Joy, Tears of joy." C.S. Lewis, an atheist before discovering the truth of Christianity described his conversion as "Surprised by Joy". No matter how hard you try, you are incapable of saving yourself through science, logical thinking or good deeds. Only the atoning work of Jesus Christ can save you. You need to be surprised by joy, you need Jesus Christ, js1138.
984 posted on 10/19/2006 8:11:17 PM PDT by FreedomProtector
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To: FreedomProtector
I enjoy discussing problems/assumptions with dating methods or the improbability of evolution from common descent or homologous structures or whatever any other related topic.

Perhaps I can help you with any questions you may have on radiocarbon dating. I do quite a lot of it.

986 posted on 10/19/2006 8:14:24 PM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: FreedomProtector

Why is it that you creationists always automatically assume that anyone that understands science, is therefore unable to understand religion, or be religious?

A person that understands science, or evolution, is not necassarily an atheist of any sort.

And to have you say that you debate science, something that you obviously have little understanding of, in order to "save" us, is arrogant in the extreme, and in all honesty, I find it rather offensive.


987 posted on 10/19/2006 8:27:08 PM PDT by Jaguarbhzrd
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To: FreedomProtector
I enjoy discussing problems/assumptions with dating methods or the improbability of evolution from common descent or homologous structures or whatever any other related topic.

Why is it that every time the origin of life is mentioned with discussing the origin of all of life, evolutionists get really uncomfortable and want to change the subject?

Would you rather talk about the probability of the human brain developing by chance and natural process alone in any large amount of time you choose? I am more than happy to do that....: )

I'm not going to waste my time on arguments that are so stupid they have been rejected by Answers in Genesis.

I am not at all uncomfortable discussing the origin of life, but since there is no actual scientific theory for it, the discussion gets kind of thin, unless you happen to be doing research on the subject.

The probability of any complex event, such as the formation of a hurricane at a particular time and place, is essentially zero. and yet hurricanes form. You can do the math all day long without error, and have nothing useful to show for it. The odds of your predicting the Closing of the the Dow for next Friday are pretty slim, and yet it will close with a specific number.

Show a touch of understanding for how evolution actually works, and we can discuss.

What you do not understand is that biological states are not specified in advance. There is no pre-specification, so the probability calculation is not relevant.

1,018 posted on 10/20/2006 4:07:38 AM PDT by js1138 (The absolute seriousness of someone who is terminally deluded.)
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