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Get guns out of homes, keep guns away from kids
AberdeenNews.com ^ | 10/13/2006 | Mary Sanchez

Posted on 10/13/2006 2:33:17 PM PDT by NapkinUser

More school shootings, and the inevitable commentary on the evening news: "I didn't think this sort of thing could happen here."

The heartfelt, but naive belief that murderous rampages "don't happen here" begs the question: "Where do you think such things happen?"

Labels exist for the places where shootings occur: urban, inner city.

But one thing urban folks can tell their scared suburban friends right now is that a good part of the horrendous violence in their communities is due to the proliferation of guns.

Sometimes it seems like everyone is packing. Someone disrespects your girl? Shoot 'em. Someone looks at you wrong? Shoot 'em. Someone mouths off to you at a party? Shoot 'em.

So for once, maybe the suburbs and rural America can take a cue from the cities: "Get the guns out of your homes."

Because while much of America lulled itself into believing that these things "do not happen here," they were also stockpiling. Where they live guns are used for hunting, for target practice and for a misplaced sense of security. I get that, my mother's family has those references. Mother's stories about growing up on the Kansas farm often involve guns.

There was the time when grandfather's favorite dog turned up rabid. "Get the gun!" Grandpa shouted from the field, knowing he had to shoot his dog before it bit his family.

There are stories about hunting rabbits and duck for dinner and shooting coyotes so they wouldn't kill the livestock.

But mother gave up fetching food from the woods long ago. She goes to the grocery now. She feels safe with good locks on the house. Grandfather's guns have been passed down as family heirlooms, not loaded weapons.

She has no use for a gun.

More people who live in these "couldn't happen here" communities need to come to the same revelation.

Because for all the recent head scratching about how to prevent more school shootings, studies have made several things clear: School shooters almost always are boys. The shootings are planned attacks, not spur of the moment. And the guns come from the shooters' homes.

We need to quit dancing around these facts, starting with the president. George Bush's recent summit should have been titled "Gun violence in schools."

Apparently that would have been too to-the-point. So it was proclaimed the less accurate but more benevolent, "Conference on School Safety."

The little political commentary about guns in schools has been insane commentary. Wisconsin Rep. Frank Lasee proposes teachers carry guns. Missouri Gov. Matt Blunt made the same suggestion, until smarter heads backed him away from the idea.

Arm the teachers? How about disarm the kids?

The best way to do that would be to address where school shooters get their guns - from their homes. Oh I know, people will talk about their right to bear arms, the need for self-protection, that they like to hunt wild game. All are understandable replies.

But anyone giving these answers should also honestly address two questions: Do you really need a gun in the house, and if so, how secure is it? And, how well do you know your son?

I can hear the refrain now: "Guns don't kill people, people kill people." Nice slogan.

Here's the truth: Troubled boys with access to their parents' guns have killed their classmates, their teachers and quite often, themselves.

And yes, it can happen anywhere.


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To: NapkinUser

Oh hag go to New York with the rest of the nuts of the world....


61 posted on 10/13/2006 3:59:05 PM PDT by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: isthisnickcool

Let's get personal. It ain't 'kids,' it's Rosie, Da Spoon, O'Donnell.


62 posted on 10/13/2006 4:00:44 PM PDT by dhuffman@awod.com (The conspiracy of ignorance masquerades as common sense.)
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To: Concho

Post # 15.........."911 was a number to call when you needed a public servant to come mop up the blood and haul off the corpse"........Love it!!!!!


63 posted on 10/13/2006 4:03:09 PM PDT by Yosemite Sam1951
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To: NapkinUser
From the article: "Troubled boys with access to their parents' guns have killed their classmates, their teachers and quite often, themselves. "

Yes. This has happened millions hundreds of thousands thousands ... Hmmm.... Maybe we shouldn't set national policy based on what happens to one person in a million.

Liberals have no sense.

64 posted on 10/13/2006 4:06:36 PM PDT by William Tell (RKBA for California (rkba.members.sonic.net) - Volunteer by contacting Dave at rkba@sonic.net)
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To: Concho

LOL Your Kalifornia sister-in-law calling 911: "Thank...you...for...calling. If...you...have...an...emergency...and...wish...to...speak...in...Spanish...press...1. All...of...our...dispatchers...are...on...the...other...lines. Please...hold...for...the...next..."

BANG! BANG! BAM-BAM! BANG!

....................If...you...still...need...help...you...may...leave...a...message............


65 posted on 10/13/2006 4:08:29 PM PDT by hardworking (Just once, I'd like to vote for a candidate who's actually had to meet a payroll.)
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To: Paleo Conservative
I think its the phrase 'Gun Control'thats a problem with some. It appears that many would be quite happy to accept the odd school shooting and the killing of a few kids every now and again as part of their 'anti gun control philosophy'. Some on this forum have even suggested that young pupils should also carry weapons to defend themselves.
When I was at school allbeit 50yrs ago we raided the local territorial army base and 'blagged' some of the weapons and ammo.Fortunately for us they were 303 rifles and 22 ammunition otherwise I'm certain somebody would have been killed
66 posted on 10/13/2006 4:09:08 PM PDT by Brit1
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To: JOE43270
If you would like to come and see my new home and you knock on the door politely and be nice you will be welcome. If you just try to break the door down and come in and be mean I will be mean too.

Works for me because I won't be trying to break any doors down. I was being sarcastic but really I should have said "build around my gun safes". Because a fellow really does not have many guns unless it takes more than one safe to store them.

I changed my tage line for this thread...

67 posted on 10/13/2006 4:19:02 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (Sliding butt stock, carry handle, gas operated. Named after a horse. What am I?)
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To: oldenuff2no
There are approximately 246 million guns in the US.
FACT: Less than 1% of all guns will ever be used in the commission of any type of crime (much less violent crime).

*FBI Uniform Crime Statistics, 1994

The National Literacy Act of 1991 defines literacy as “an individual’s ability to read, write, and speak in English, and compute and solve problems at levels of proficiency necessary to function on the job and in society, to achieve one’s goals, and develop one’s knowledge and potential."

According to this same Act,
nearly 30,000,000 adults in the United States have serious problems with literacy; (Approximately 10% of population)

How Many Schools?
95,615
Number of public elementary and secondary schools. The corresponding number of private elementary and secondary schools is 29,273.

www.census.gov

Approximately 125,000 schools vs. 30,000,000 illiterates. Thats 240 illiterates per school.

Schools are 24000 times more likely to produce an illiterate, than a gun is to be used in any type of crime.

Schools cause illiteracy.

68 posted on 10/13/2006 4:21:20 PM PDT by mountn man (The pleasure you get from life, is equal to the attitude you put into it.)
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To: NapkinUser
Another anti-gun nut rant.

Tell her how you really feel...

msanchez@kcstar.com

69 posted on 10/13/2006 4:23:07 PM PDT by ExtremeUnction
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To: NapkinUser
"But one thing urban folks can tell their scared suburban friends right now is that a good part of the horrendous violence in their communities is due to the proliferation of guns. "


Yes, why just this evening I saw a whole "gang" of S&W Model 19's and Colt 1911's running through the neighborhood shooting at anything that moves. Definitely have to get those guns off the streets.
70 posted on 10/13/2006 4:34:49 PM PDT by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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To: NapkinUser
Too bad it hasn't happened in the Aberdeen News newsroom.
71 posted on 10/13/2006 4:41:51 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Ever learning . . .)
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To: KarinG1

http://www.stickdeath.com/talibloop.html


72 posted on 10/13/2006 5:10:43 PM PDT by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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To: headstamp

LOL!


73 posted on 10/13/2006 5:56:45 PM PDT by KarinG1 (Opinions expressed in this post are my own and do not necessarily represent those of sane people.)
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To: KarinG1

That's one wild website.


74 posted on 10/13/2006 6:10:26 PM PDT by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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To: Triggerhippie
"If she's so proud about not having guns, she should place a "Gun-free Home" sign on her front lawn..."

Any miscreant who reads this can find out her address; knowing she's unarmed will just make the job easier.

We'll be hearing about her again soon, and it won't be a pleasant story...
75 posted on 10/13/2006 6:17:02 PM PDT by decal (Building a wall on the border is like treating lung cancer with cough syrup.)
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To: JOHANNES801
I don't hunt four legged animals with a gun...

Guns were invented to kill only one bipedal animal...
76 posted on 10/13/2006 6:21:30 PM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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To: RightWhale
Remember the election of 1994. The gungrabbers were sure they were going to win the elections and they intended to take away the guns. They said so, and were laughing (literally!) about the power they would exercise. They lost the election overall, but they are still out there waiting for their chance.

They may one day come to power and start grabbing guns. But I'll never mail mine in or allow them access to my bedroom.
77 posted on 10/13/2006 6:55:20 PM PDT by Jaysun (Idiot Muslims. They're just dying to have sex orgies.)
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To: dhuffman@awod.com
Somewhere there is an aphorisim about 'conservatives are liberals that have been mugged.' Does that extend to violence against women?

One would think so.
78 posted on 10/13/2006 6:56:41 PM PDT by Jaysun (Idiot Muslims. They're just dying to have sex orgies.)
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To: NapkinUser
I've got a better idea...



Firearms skill and safety training.

The above pic is from a Massachusettes High School in 1959.
79 posted on 10/13/2006 7:03:49 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
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To: NapkinUser

People don't house people, houses do.


80 posted on 10/13/2006 7:05:13 PM PDT by GreenAccord (I'm GreenAccord and I approved of this message)
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