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To: orionblamblam
Yeah and if Japan ever decided to kick the US bases off of its land, there wouldn't be a damn thing we could do about it except go to war. The South had already seceded, they were their own soveriegn country and there was nothing legal about the troops occupying Sumter at the time. Do you see any other foreign countries with military bases on our land? No, because we won't allow it. You think SC was going to allow an enemy base of operations to conduct business on it's soil. Ridiculous.

And yes, the battle itself was bloodless, read up on it. Read about the opposing Generals and their relationship with one another before the war. As much as a genius Beauregard was with artillery, he shelled Ft. Sumter for 24 hours and didn't cause a single casualty. That was the last chance for peace then. The CSA would not surrender and the Federals wouldn't let them go. That's the reason for the bloodiest war in our history.

42 posted on 10/10/2006 7:43:34 AM PDT by lovecraft (Specialization is for insects.)
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To: lovecraft

> The South had already seceded, they were their own soveriegn country and there was nothing legal about the troops occupying Sumter at the time.

The Soutyh seceeded with the lands of the South. Fort Sumter was Federal property. US air bases in Japan are *not* US federal proprty. Kennedy Space Center *is* federal property, so if Florida decides to secceed and join with Cuba, they don't get KSC.

> You think SC was going to allow an enemy base of operations to conduct business on it's soil. Ridiculous.

Yes, ridiculous... because Ft. Sumter was not on SC soil.

>> The CSA would not surrender ...

There was neither need nor cause for the CSA to surrender. The CSA had *succeeded.* They had won. Theyu were on their own. All that was left for them to do was decide what sort of relationship they would have with the United States. The CSA chose to go to war.

Live and learn.

And speaking of living and learning... I've gone round and round on this issue in just the last few days. Nothing further to be gained. As the Good Book says:

þrimr orðum sennas
kalattu þér við verra mann
opt inn betri bilar
þá er inn verri vegr

Words to live by.


48 posted on 10/10/2006 7:50:26 AM PDT by orionblamblam (Prayers... give people the feeling they're doing something without making any real effort.)
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To: lovecraft
and the FAULT for the WAR & the MILLION DEAD Americans was SOLELY that of lincoln, the TYRANT, who CHOSE war!

free dixie,sw

79 posted on 10/10/2006 9:36:10 AM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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