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To: rustbucket
A state by its own action can rescind its ratification of the Constitution and secede. There is nothing in the Constitution that prevents that. The seceded state is then no longer a state of the Union.

The problem with that bit of particularly flawed logic is that 37 of the 50 states were not created merely by rafifying the Constitution. They were admitted only with the permission of the other states and by implication that is the way that they can leave. Or so the Supreme Court found in the Texas v White case. And since all states are considered equal then the original 13 are bound by the same restrictions placed on the 37 created since.

On the other hand, if other states band together and kick out a state, then that single action done without the consent of the kicked out state deprives the state of representation.

Nonsense. Nothing in the Constitution prevents it.

Answer: "Yes, but non-sec said we could do it. After all, he’s the self-proclaimed head of the Yankee posters, and he wants to be King of Kansas."

Well, we are expected to accept that things are constitutional and unconstitutional merely because you say they are. Why not me?

278 posted on 10/14/2006 2:27:00 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

"Nonsense. Nothing in the Constitution prevents it. "

Yeah, well Grant and Sherman had something to say about that.


279 posted on 10/14/2006 2:30:54 PM PDT by Uncle Billy ("A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take away all you have")
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To: Non-Sequitur
The problem with that bit of particularly flawed logic is that 37 of the 50 states were not created merely by rafifying the Constitution. They were admitted only with the permission of the other states and by implication that is the way that they can leave. Or so the Supreme Court found in the Texas v White case. And since all states are considered equal then the original 13 are bound by the same restrictions placed on the 37 created since.

What took away rights/powers from the original 13 states? Where is it in the Constitution that such powers can be taken away without a Constitutional amendment?

Oh, yeah. Abe.

286 posted on 10/14/2006 4:20:30 PM PDT by rustbucket
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