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Confederate Flag Clothing Causes Controversy
WSBTV.com ^ | 10-6-2006 | WSBTV

Posted on 10/10/2006 5:08:28 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo

The principal at a Fayette County middle school has banned all clothing with the confederate flag emblem...

(Excerpt) Read more at wsbtv.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Georgia
KEYWORDS: cbf; confederate; crossofsaintandrew; dixie; education; saintandrewscross; schools; segregation; southernheritage
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
according to the census bureau all SEVEN states will be at least 60-70% Hispanic by 2020.

TX, otoh, will be, at current immigration levels, about 25-30%.

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321 posted on 10/16/2006 2:12:23 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Non-Sequitur
more PROPAGANDA & BILGE from the DAMNyankee Minister of PROPAGANDA!

pity that you haven't figured out that EVERYBODY knows that about you now. also, you've LOST all the WORST of the south-haters from the "DAMNyankee coven of lunatics" that you used to FOOL with "changing the subject",twisting words/quotes to the point of DIShonesty, evasions, half-truths & outright NONSENSE.

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322 posted on 10/16/2006 2:15:13 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie; Bubba Ho-Tep
according to the census bureau all SEVEN states will be at least 60-70% Hispanic by 2020.

Aren't you the one who keeps telling us how inaccurate census data is?

323 posted on 10/16/2006 2:21:34 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
18th/19th century data was TERMINALLY FLAWED & NEAR WORTHLESS.

20th/21st century data is RELIABLE (it's estimated to be in excess of 98% correct for LEGAL residents)!

you, otoh, are NEVER reliably anything, except a PROPAGANDIST of course! NONSENSE & PROPAGANDA is your JOB!

free dixie,sw

324 posted on 10/16/2006 2:27:22 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie
20th/21st century data is RELIABLE (it's estimated to be in excess of 98% correct for LEGAL residents)!

Really? That's not what your cohort 4CJ was saying less than a month ago. In fact, the quote was "Even today with modern transportation, computers, and hundreds of thousands of people empoyyed by the Census Bureau, they report that the census was off by approximately 26.4 million in 1990 and 15.1 million in 2000." That would be about an 7% or 8% margin of error.

link

So...are you saying that 4CJ doesn't have a clue as to what he's talking about? Not that I would disagree, mind. But I'd like to have it come from you.

325 posted on 10/16/2006 2:45:51 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: stand watie
TX, otoh, will be, at current immigration levels, about 25-30%.

According to the Census Bureau, Texas is already over 35% Hispanic, and has seen 30% growth in its immigrant population (overwhelmingly from Mexico) in just the last five years. Oregon isn't even in the top 15. Actually the fastest growth in Hispanic populations is in the south--Mississippi, Tennessese and Georgia have all seen their immigrant populations more than double in the last five years. California's has only grown 10% in the same period.

326 posted on 10/16/2006 2:48:41 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: Non-Sequitur
all,i'm going by is what the Washington Times says is the correct data.

UNlike YOU, i don't try to convince everyone here that i'm an expert of EVERYTHING.

but then everyone with normal IQ knows what you post is nothing but BILGE & PROPAGANDA for the DAMNyankee, LOUD-mouthed, elitists out of new england's LEFTIST/REVISIONIST "poison ivy covered halls".

aren't you getting LONELY without your following of south-HATERS, NITWITS & FOOLS (who used to follow you around shouting : AMEN, AMEN, AMEN!)

free dixie,sw

327 posted on 10/16/2006 2:51:31 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie

Incidentally, Texas also leads in the number of immigrants living in poverty--almost 30% of them.


328 posted on 10/16/2006 2:53:44 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
WRONG ANSWER.

TX has had about a THIRD Hispanics for CENTURIES, but those Hispanics have LITTLE in common with the "new immigrants" (MOST old Tejano families won't "associate" with the "newcomers". fyi, my adopted daughter IS a "newcomer" - she is FROM Mexico & gets her US citizenship papers in about 16 months.)!). we call such people: TEJANOS!

otoh,the LEFT/LEFTIST coast's Hispanics are MOSTLY "illegals", who are GROSSLY under-counted.

and the LEFT coast won't fight for anything. (they don't call it the "land of fruits & nuts" for nothing!)

free dixie,sw

329 posted on 10/16/2006 2:58:42 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
and anyone should CARE about that???

the UNLAWFUL immigrants should GO HOME! (my daughter AGREES wholeheartedly, btw. like most "upper class Latinos", she has NO patience with ILLEGALS!)

free dixie,sw

330 posted on 10/16/2006 3:00:50 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: stand watie
You said Hispanic population. Not immigrant population.

otoh,the LEFT/LEFTIST coast's Hispanics are MOSTLY "illegals", who are GROSSLY under-counted.

But didn't you just say that the census is 98% accurate? Why should I accept what you say the census says about one thing when you turn around and insist that it's worthless for something else.

331 posted on 10/16/2006 3:13:42 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: stand watie
and anyone should CARE about that???

That Texas has one of the worst poverty rates in the US? I'd think you'd care. I guess not, though.

332 posted on 10/16/2006 3:18:54 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
Sorry that I'm late myself. I just got back in town tonight.

Many thanks for your information. If and when I can get to the library, I'll let you know what I find in the old newspapers about this.

Here's one piece of info from the web: [Source

Ironically, more detail is known about Confederate weapons in the Mill Springs campaign, than their Federal counterparts. Much period correspondence on the subject exists in the Official Records, particularly covering the early efforts of the Confederacy to arm its troops in Tennessee. This correspondence highlights the difficulties in procuring suitable arms of any types experienced throughout the fall and winter of 1861. The shortage of military type infantry longarms was so acute that special facilities were set up at various Tennessee locations to convert civilian rifles and shotguns to a military caliber. Some of these converted arms went to Gen. Carroll’s Brigade (Seymour, pp. 13-16; "Confederate Veteran," Vol. 19, No. 7 (July 1911), p. 315; OR I, 52, 2, pp. 228-229, 253-254).

Most of the men in the Tennessee regiments were armed with .69 caliber smoothbore U.S. muskets, many of them still in their original flintlock configuration. The desperation of the Tennesseans in trying to fire their flintlocks in the rain at Mill Springs is well documented. The Official Records and other sources provide the following details on the arms of the Tennessee regiments:

17th Tennessee Infantry -- issued flintlock muskets "of the oldest pattern" soon after the regiment’s organization in the summer of 1861; the men refused these at first, but accepted them when promised that they would be replaced by modern pattern arms. This replacement did not, however, occur before Mill Springs, where the "worthlessness of the guns and the condition of the ammunition made the firing a farce. The shots were observed to fall to the ground far short of the enemy" (Lindsley, Vol. 1, pp. 348, 350).

Tough to fight with weapons like that. I'd never heard of this before. Thanks. (The link covers the arms of some of the other Tennessee units.)

333 posted on 10/16/2006 4:34:26 PM PDT by rustbucket
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To: Non-Sequitur
And once Congress allowed them to be admitted they did. [enjoy the full benefits of the union, that is]

But I thought you said the original 13 states lost some of the privileges and immunities of the Union when later states joined? Gee, did the original 13 know they were going to lose some of those benefits if they accepted Vermont as a state?

334 posted on 10/16/2006 4:41:10 PM PDT by rustbucket
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To: fortheDeclaration
The President did not violate the Constitution, he has authority based on his responsibilty to stop rebellion.

So you believe. Apparently you also believe the South's effort was a rebellion rather than a peaceful secession. I doubt that we'll agree on this, so let's save some bandwidth.

The fact is that they cannot withdraw and no where does it state in the Constitution that they can.

Pieces of cake. Yes, they could and Tenth Amendment.

What the Constitution does say is that they cannot form compacts or Confederations.

They can if they were no longer states, which a huge part of the country truly believed but an even larger part apparently didn't believe. The argument as to whether they could secede and no longer be states was only settled at the point of a bayonet.

After the war, key Radical Republicans such as Thaddeus Stephens believed that the seceded states were no longer states and that they should be treated as defeated territories, not states.

Since when is the Union a Confederacy?

George Washington kept referring to the new post-1787 union as a "confederated republic." In the 1820s and 1830s the Union started being called a Confederacy, but I haven't found it called that exact word before then.

A State can no more withdraw from the Union then it can be ejected from the Union.

There is a clause in Article V of the Constitution that deals with a state's representation in the Senate. It can't be taken from them without their consent (Radical Republicans, notwithstanding), so they can't be kicked out.

335 posted on 10/16/2006 5:14:33 PM PDT by rustbucket
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To: rustbucket
But I thought you said the original 13 states lost some of the privileges and immunities of the Union when later states joined?

They enjoyed all the privileges that the other states created them enjoyed. No more and no less.

Gee, did the original 13 know they were going to lose some of those benefits if they accepted Vermont as a state?

What benefits did they lose?

336 posted on 10/16/2006 7:15:29 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: stand watie
UNlike YOU, i don't try to convince everyone here that i'm an expert of EVERYTHING.

You couldn't if you wanted to. Your reputation preceeds you.

337 posted on 10/16/2006 7:16:43 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
NOPE. frankly, i do NOT care, as IF you have no job in TX, it's because you either don't want one OR are too INCAPABLE to have one.

fwiw, my mother has been trying to hire FARM labor at 12.oo per hour PLUS room & board for over 6 months. (Several men applied, but never appearred to work, evidently because they didn't really want to work!)

she has had exactly ONE person who was ready & willing to work = a @25-30YO young woman who may weigh 125# (hardly the BIG, strong man she advertised for!).

fwiw, "Nellie" IS "on the farm payroll".

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338 posted on 10/16/2006 8:29:19 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Non-Sequitur
in other words, you admit that you try to convince everyone that you are an expert on everything.

in other words, you're really an expert on NOTHING, but have a REALLY "big head".

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339 posted on 10/16/2006 8:31:36 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
may i suggest that you read #324???

the 2000 census is 98% accurate for LEGAL residents.

free dixie,sw

340 posted on 10/16/2006 8:35:55 PM PDT by stand watie ("Resistance to tyrants is OBEDIENCE to God." - T. Jefferson, 1804)
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