Posted on 10/10/2006 5:08:28 AM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
The principal at a Fayette County middle school has banned all clothing with the confederate flag emblem...
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IF secession is NOT lawful, NOTHING in the BOR is MEANINGFUL either.
free dixie,sw
Where do you see 'secession' listed?
As for your last question regarding secession, a State can no more leave the Union then it can be cast out of the Union.
In this case, it was true.
As for your last question regarding secession, a State can no more leave the Union then it can be cast out of the Union.
I take it you couldn't find anything in the Constitution outlawing secession.
SECESSION is ONE of those POWERS, which neither the STATES nor the CITIZENS ceded to the central government.
free dixie,sw
it is NOT there, any place! (this is a case of the SIMPLE answer being the EXACTLY CORRECT answer! furthermore, the IDIOTS who believe otherwise, suffer from a malady which is called" WILLFUL IGNORANCE and/or STUPIDITY!)
free dixie,sw
don't you CARE that most FReepers think you are a BIGOT, a DUNCE & a LUNATIC, who is CLUELESS to boot????
free dixie,sw
"there's a SIMPLE reason that he/she can NOT find a PROHIBITION of SECESSION in the Constitution."
For anybody to even hint that secession is not a constitutional right, simply shows a lack of understanding. Secession was the absolute last line of defense against government folks who thought they were the best thing since sliced bread and could steal some power and take anybody they wanted to the cleaners. Doesn't that sound remarkably like what is occurring in govt. today?
Anyway, the founding fathers had many a discussion on this issue and it was totally decided that each and every state had the right of secession. Twas to teach the federal govt. to mind their manners. After all, the Union was formed by the STATE'S consent, not the other way around, as the 'ole tyrant declared...
when the western/LEFT coast (with AZ,CO,NM & NV) SECEDE to form Los Estados Unidos de Azatlan (and imVho this WILL happen within 20 years!!!!) i wonder how many MILLION Americans the HATERS out of the LEFTIST/HATE-filled/ELITIST/IMPERIALIST/northeast will WILLINGLY kill/rape/rob/torture THIS TIME to "preserve the union" of the UNwilling!
free dixie,sw
Every state that's been admitted to the Union since Texas v. White, at least, has understood they couldn't leave at their whim. But join they did.
They'll have the illegals to help them. The illegals have already proven to be mighty fine criminals. Repubs. and Dems. is just a makin' sure we allow them free reign in the states, along with human rights, civil rights, and other deluded groups...
If a State cannot be ejected from the Union, what makes you think a State can leave the Union?
When the States agreed to the Constitution, they agreed to be united as one People-Americans.
No it's not.
The powers of the Presidency during rebellion were used by Lincoln and upheld by Congress.
As for your last question regarding secession, a State can no more leave the Union then it can be cast out of the Union I take it you couldn't find anything in the Constitution outlawing secession.
I take it you haven't read Article 1, section10 which removes the right of any state to act as a sovereign nation.
Including entering into a Confederation or making a compact with another state.
So once again, the South cannot engage in illegal behaviour, and then scream when the laws of the nation are enforced.
Ironically,the Confederate Constitution had the same restriction on entering into Confederations and compacts with other states.
But ofcourse, if in say, 50 years, some of the Confederate States got upset with the Confederacy, we know that the they would have been allowed to secede peacefully....
Can you show me where in the Constitution that Congress is given the powers to authorize the President to violate the Constitution? Congress does not have that authority.
I take it you haven't read Article 1, section10 which removes the right of any state to act as a sovereign nation. Including entering into a Confederation or making a compact with another state.
As long as states remain in the Union, they are bound by that section of the Constitution. The Constitution does not apply to Canadian provinces or states that have withdrawn from the Constitutional compact. When states withdraw their delegation of powers to the federal government and resume governing themselves, they are no longer bound by any limitations in the Constitution.
From a US Supreme Court finding in Penhallow v. Doane's Adm'rs, 3 U.S. 54 (1795) [Thanks, 4CJ for finding this]:
As long as she [New Hampshire] continued to be one of the federal states, it must have been on equal terms. If she would not submit to the exercise of the act of sovereignty contended for by Congress, and the other states, she should have withdrawn herself from the confederacy.
Withdraw herself! No approval required from any other state to withdraw and no armies marching into the state to force it to remain in the Union. Get it? These were Founders saying this, not folks from a later time like yourself trying to put their spin on the Constitution.
Good article by Walter Williams on why the Civil War was not about slavery, but rather more about trade, tariffs, and states' rights. The abolition of slavery just happened to be a fortunate outcome of the war.
http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols/williams120298.asp
NO state has precedence over ANY other state. ALL states have EQUAL powers;ALL the citizens of ALL the states have EQUAL RIGHTS, too.
ALL are free to "vote with their feet", just as the 1st states were/ARE!
free dixie,sw
free dixie,sw
i for ONE wouldn't be adverse to ejecting MA,just to get rid of "teddy the WHALE".
free dixie,sw
qwhy not head over & post that STATIST bilge on DU???
free dixie,sw
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