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Va. Nuclear Reactor Shuts Down
Houston Chronicle ^ | Oct 8, 2006 | AP

Posted on 10/09/2006 9:52:33 AM PDT by thackney

SURRY, Va. — One of two nuclear reactors at Surry Power Station remained shut down Sunday after two electrical transformers that provide backup power to the plant quit working.

Unit Two was shut down around 6 p.m. Saturday after steam blew out some sheet metal, which landed on a power line that serves one of the backup transformers, said Richard Zher, a spokesman for Dominion Resources Inc., the Richmond-based power company that owns the plant. Officials weren't sure what caused the second transformer to shut down, Zher said.

That first reserve electrical transformer was repaired, and Dominion was working on the second, Zher said Sunday. A third transformer was not affected.

Backup diesel generators kicked in when the two transformers shut down, Zher said.

Zher said Dominion was investigating what caused steam to blow out the siding in a building where cold water is turned into steam, which powers a turbine that creates electricity through a generator.

"Once we have made that determination and resolved any problems, we will restart" the reactor, Zher said.

The plant issued an alert, as required by federal guidelines, he said.

"No one was injured and it didn't cause any threat to public health or safety," Zher said.

Surry's two nuclear units at Surry each produce 799 megawatts of electricity and provide 15 percent of the electricity in Dominion's service area.

Dominion, headquartered in Richmond, is one of the nation's largest producers of energy.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: energy; nuclear
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To: LIConFem


Hahaha...I shut prant down so I can steer prutonium!


41 posted on 10/10/2006 9:09:22 AM PDT by beezdotcom
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To: DungeonMaster
So your prediction is that they will never be more than a feel good toy? Do you want to quantify that prediction?

Sure. As an electrical generation source, they will never make up more than a few precent of demand and will always be more expensive than other sources. But they will make concerned people feel better. See Energy Density to understand why.

42 posted on 10/10/2006 10:32:21 AM PDT by Ditto
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To: Ditto
Sure. As an electrical generation source, they will never make up more than a few precent of demand and will always be more expensive than other sources. But they will make concerned people feel better. See Energy Density to understand why.

How many are a few, I think nukes only account for 10 percent in this country. Also are you talking about this country only?

43 posted on 10/10/2006 10:55:08 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Man defiles a rock when he chips it with a tool. Ex 20:25)
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To: Ditto

By the way how is energy density a problem for wind power?


44 posted on 10/10/2006 11:11:47 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Man defiles a rock when he chips it with a tool. Ex 20:25)
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To: DungeonMaster
Wind energy is not dense. It takes as much area to generate 1 MW of wind power as does to generate 500-1000 MW of fossil or nuclear power. Similar story with solar.

How much land area are you willing to give up?

45 posted on 10/10/2006 11:18:20 AM PDT by Ditto
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To: Ditto

The land is not "given up" so what is your point and how does it hurt wind power? I'm also hoping you'll commit to some percentage that we will never reach in this or any country.


46 posted on 10/10/2006 11:23:14 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Man defiles a rock when he chips it with a tool. Ex 20:25)
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To: DungeonMaster
How many are a few, I think nukes only account for 10 percent in this country.

The 100 Nuclear plants in the US account for about 12% of US's installed nameplate capacity but with its high capacity factor and low generating costs, nuclear plants actually generate over 20% of the megawatts consumed in the US. As of now, wind and solar combined generate less than 1%.

Figure 1. Net Generation Shares by Energy Source: Total (All Sectors), Year-to-Date through July, 2006

Source: US DOE Energy Information Administration

47 posted on 10/10/2006 11:30:23 AM PDT by Ditto
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To: Ditto

Yes, but give me a number that wind will never amount to more than. Can we say "a few percent" = 5 percent?


48 posted on 10/10/2006 11:33:56 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Man defiles a rock when he chips it with a tool. Ex 20:25)
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To: Ditto

You also didn't answer the density question. I'm starting to think that you don't really have a good reason to dislike wind power.


49 posted on 10/10/2006 11:34:37 AM PDT by DungeonMaster (Man defiles a rock when he chips it with a tool. Ex 20:25)
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To: mkjessup

The vast majority of SROs are ex Navy Nukes, so if you want to blame anyone you can start there.


50 posted on 10/10/2006 11:41:24 AM PDT by Boiler Plate (Mom always said why be difficult, when with just a little more effort you can be impossible.)
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To: DungeonMaster
DM,
Unless you have some type of energy storage system Wind and Solar Power are almost useless. Power generation has three dimensions Capacity, Delivery and Availability.

In other words you have to have enough to meet the demands, you have to be able to get it to the demand, and you have to provide when the demand calls for it.

Wind turbines generate only minuscule amounts of power compared to conventional plants, however something is better than nothing so wind power can get a pass on that.

You can't build wind turbines anywhere, they have to built in rural areas where there is sufficient steady wind.

Lastly they can't be cranked up to meet demand so and may not be there at all so some other form of generation has to be made available at all times. That is of course unless there is way to store the energy such as batteries or a back bay system. These storage systems are also expensive and reduce the practicality of wind power.

Nuclear power is the way to go. It is cheap, reliable and can be built just about anywhere. That's why the Chinese are building so many of them. Best Regards,
Boiler Plate
51 posted on 10/10/2006 12:03:47 PM PDT by Boiler Plate (Mom always said why be difficult, when with just a little more effort you can be impossible.)
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To: DungeonMaster
I'm also hoping you'll commit to some percentage that we will never reach in this or any country.

The most rosey predictions from the wind industry put it at around 6% of demand by 2020. That seems to be very optimistic when you consider that the some of the highest demand growth is in areas that are not good for wind (the South East especially) and the fact that proponents do not seem to factor the major expenses ($1 million + per mile) and significant regulatory/environmental/NIMBY hurdles in constructing tie lines to those ideal wind generation locations. I'd bet that by 2020, wind will be less than 2% of our total generation (if the tax breaks continue). Get back to me in 2020, and we'll see who's right. ;~))

Again. I have nothing against generating MW with wind. It's great. But it is not a good source for the grid. It would be ideal for use in batch production processes where they can deal with the natural fluctuations and adjust production as necessary. But grid operators must deal with meeting demand 24 hours a day, seven days a week, not just when the wind is blowing.

53 posted on 10/10/2006 12:13:28 PM PDT by Ditto
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To: m1aspringfield
Who do you think runs US Nuclear power plants? Let me answer that for you.. US navy veterans.

That isn't even half-clever.

Navy veterans may be employed in civilian nuclear power plants but that does not equate to the Department of the Navy managing and supervising those facilities.

Nice try though.
55 posted on 10/10/2006 12:20:47 PM PDT by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But nooo, Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly' man.)
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To: Boiler Plate

Wind power is almost useless? Um, would YOU quantify that? What percentage of the power used in Iowa could wind provide and still be considered useless?


56 posted on 10/10/2006 12:38:15 PM PDT by DungeonMaster (Man defiles a rock when he chips it with a tool. Ex 20:25)
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To: DungeonMaster

What are you talking about? :p


57 posted on 10/10/2006 12:39:44 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: Ditto
But grid operators must deal with meeting demand 24 hours a day, seven days a week, not just when the wind is blowing.

The heat wave last July in CA is a compelling case. During that period of peak demand, you had CA wind capacity coming in with a CF of 5% or so. During that same period, we had Diablo Canyon 1 at 100% CF, Diablo Canyon 2 at 100% CF, SONGS-2 at 99%, and SONGS-3 at 99.9% CF. Based on those numbers, wind just can't carry the load, but the nukes can.

58 posted on 10/10/2006 12:41:12 PM PDT by chimera
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To: Ditto

2 percent by 2020. Well thanks for giving me a number. Wind is currently at 1 percent given 12gw = 30 twhr/yr and we use 3000 twhr/yr. We are currently adding 3 gw/year of wind so at that rate we will be at 2 percent in 4 years. However, the rate of increase for wind power construction has held steady at about 25 to 30 percent per year.


59 posted on 10/10/2006 1:17:49 PM PDT by DungeonMaster (Man defiles a rock when he chips it with a tool. Ex 20:25)
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To: DungeonMaster

OK what percentage of of Iowa's power is ALWAYS provided by wind power?


60 posted on 10/10/2006 2:08:52 PM PDT by Boiler Plate (Mom always said why be difficult, when with just a little more effort you can be impossible.)
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