Foley Setup? - Part V - Uncovering the Conspiracy

Macsminds ^ | 10.04.06 | Macranger

[KJC1]

The point is that SOMEONE hung on to these explicit IMs for months or even years. During that "hanging on" time, other pages were subjected to Foley when action should have been taken immediately.

The Dems are accusing the GOP of doing the above, when in fact, it appears to be Dems who sat on this info for ONE reason only: They put politics over protecting teens from a predator.

Further, they are accusing the GOP of what they themselves have done, and if the GOP doesn't fight back it will stick.

Foley being a sleazebucket perv is agreed upon by both the GOP and Dems.

The dispute is over "who knew what when." This is the sledgehammer being wielded now.

Hastert called for a complete investigation, and a good offense is the best solution here.

[KJC1]

Please read this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1713470/posts

It just keeps getting worse.

[Dave S]

The point is that SOMEONE hung on to these explicit IMs for months or even years. During that "hanging on" time, other pages were subjected to Foley when action should have been taken immediately. The Dems are accusing the GOP of doing the above, when in fact, it appears to be Dems who sat on this info for ONE reason only: They put politics over protecting teens from a predator.

It's highly unlikely that it was Nancy Pelosi or any other member of congress. If any thing of the kind you are referring to occured it was some local activist who had no legal responsibilty to report it Members of congress, especially those in leadership do. Move on and deal with reality. Attempting to blame the Dims for not outing Foley earlier is not something that is going to win Republicans points. We need to get off this and on to issues that favor us.

[jrooney]

Sure is damn funny that is the second time someone on this post as said "move on". Why? You are starting to sound like you have and agenda and keeping the repubs in the majority may not be it. What do you and Huck have aginst us exposing the donks for holding the IMs for years, thus allowing a sexual predator to harass teens when it is becoming clearer by the hour that this was a planned coordinated attack by the donks? Most people do not want to move on about this but find out the truth. <If you want to move on, then move off this thread and quit trying to dissuade freepers from seeking the truth. You want us to move on, why don't you.

[KJC1]

Attempting to blame the Dims for not outing Foley earlier is not something that is going to win Republicans points.

I can't believe you don't see the real issue here. The blame-game is being played by the DEMS.

Honestly, this isn't rocket science here.

What part of the Dems smearing the whole GOP for "covering it up" when it was NOT the GOP at all, rather Dems, regardless of their rank, position, etc?

[KJC1]

Yes, it sure is odd that some FReepers want the GOP to lay back and passively take a fatal beating so the real culprits in any cover-up, the Dems, can skate to an unearned victory.

Strange, indeed.

[Freedom is eternally right]

In order for "Maf54" to show up on someone else's buddy list, both parties would need to be signed on to AOL (or AIM).

Is that true for all IMs. I have been told I am on people's buddy lists and I don't use IM.

[jennyjenny]

The dems quickness to get these ads out indicates to me they were at least tipped off about this prior to late last week.

[bobsunshine]

Agree, there is more to this then just sick Foley. In the days to come, you will see a lot coming out about who held the IM's and why: From AJ Strata (from Polipundt comment):

"FYI, you may have heard this, but Selena Zito with the Pittsburgh Tribune Review (I’m pretty sure that’s right) called in on a local (Birmingham, Alabama) talk radio program this morning. She said a major story might break today that a high ranking Democrat knew about the Foley matter and she hinted there was coordination with ABC, probably through George Stephanopoulos to release the story. (Not taking away from what a disgusting creep Foley is, but considering the reaction by the Dems to the story, this would look pretty bad for them IMO). Zito said she had a few more facts to verify, she does not want to report anything until she’s absolutely certain."

She also said other “outings” would most likely occur before the election and would further hurt the Republicans although she said Democrats would probably be affected as well.

I’m paraphrasing what she said, this is basically the gist of it. When the talk radio host asked when this might come out, she said he would be her second phone call.

[tcrlaf]

"The Repubs do need to go on the offensive regarding how this information was used."

We MUST also remind folks that Foley is GONE, and will be prosecuted, while DEMOCRAT Child Porkers get CELEBRATED, PROMOTED, and RE-ELECTED...

Is thier ANY doubt in anyone's mind that if Foley had been a Democrat, that we'd be seeing every Dem on the hill defending his "Personal and Private Lifestyle Choice", and 5,000 gays marching on Washington to protest the "Intolerance" and "Bigotry" of the Republicans?

[jennyjenny]

My daughter's entire buddy list shows up, but the names of those logged on at the time are highlighted. My question really is, can the list itself be accessed without logging on. IOW, if someone wanted to know all the names on Foley's buddy list, would they have to log on as him to get it.

[bonfire]

You don't have to be logged in to see all the friends. I just tried it.

[jennyjenny]

Thanks

[doubled]

You've fallen for part of the media attempted confusion.

The emails were sent around 2001 to the page whose parents complained.

The IM's were sent to another page around 2003.

Hasterat(sp) was told about the first ones and implies that he told Foley to knock it off.

No one knew about the IM's until last Friday except Foley and the other page.

I heard one of the lib interested parties say they had 58 or so new messages that have come to them. Could somebody tell me if an IM is the whole conversation or just one transmission, ie, a line of dialog?

If this is wrong could someone straighten me out?

[shield]

Good...finally someone posting the logical deal on what's taking place here. It's amazing how the dimwits know they can't win elections any longer by votes so they resort to this type of criminal activity, IMHO.

[jennyjenny]

I thought the emails were sent in 2005 and the IM's in 2003.Why would the parents complain last year about emails sent 4 years ago?

[Perdogg]

UPDATE II: Promoted from the Comments, this note:

“FYI, you may have heard this, but Selena Zito with the Pittsburgh Tribune Review (I’m pretty sure that’s right) called in on a local (Birmingham, Alabama) talk radio program this morning. She said a major story might break today that a high ranking Democrat knew about the Foley matter and she hinted there was coordination with ABC, probably through George
Stephanopoulos to release the story. (Not taking away from what a disgusting creep Foley is, but considering the reaction by the Dems to the story, this would look pretty bad for them IMO). Zito said she had a fewmore facts to verify, she does not want to report anything until she’s absolutely certain.

She also said other “outings” would most likely occur before the election and would further hurt the Republicans although she said Democrats would probably be affected as well.

I’m paraphrasing what she said, this is basically the gist of it. When the talk radio host asked when this might come out, she said he would be her second phone call.”

I’m getting other confirmations on this story, and it was also eluded to via Dick Morris on Hannity and Colmes last night.

More to come..

UPDATE III: Via quando net: Proof that John Aravosis of America’s Blog had possession of emails between Foley and victims MONTHS ago. Folks, if true that withholding evidence, aiding and abetting, and obstruction of justice. Possibly that explains the absence of Aravosis’s posts on Memeorandum today.


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[Dave S]

What do you and Huck have aginst us exposing the donks for holding the IMs for years, thus allowing a sexual predator to harass teens when it is becoming clearer by the hour that this was a planned coordinated attack by the donks?

Because it's a stupid waste of the little time remaining to try to make something out of the fact that the Dems may or may not have been involved in outing Foley. It doesnt change the fact that Foley is guilty of bad behavior. Republicans need to get back to making Dems the problem. Fact that Dems cant be trusted with national security or with taxes and spending. Proving that they are better at dirty tricks than we are doesnt do that.

Be careful about what you wish for. I heard yesterday that Foley made a large campaign contribution to the Republicans shortly after he decided not to run for the Senate in FL. Unfortunately this was right after Shimkus told him to lay off the pages. That smells. Hard to prove quid pro quo but do you really want to defend that? Move on.

[self_evident]

But you are deluded if you think the Feds are going to uncover a conspiracy of who put this information out into the public.

Holy crap. I can see the headlines now. "Bush sics FBI on Foley's outers"

[Dave S]

What part of the Dems smearing the whole GOP for "covering it up" when it was NOT the GOP at all, rather Dems, regardless of their rank, position, etc

What part of the fact that Foley screwed up, Hastert screwed up, Shimkus screwed up do you not understand? They had the power and responsibility to do something about this. In case you hadnt noticed, the Dems in congress cant go to the bathroom without permission. If you start comparing low level Dem dirty tricksters (assuming you can identify them) to GOP House leadership, how does that help Republicans? A little over 30 days and you want to try to explain to the American people that it was the Dems that made Foley do it and Hastert enable him. They may be stupid but I wouldnt count on them being that dumb.