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To: Tokra

"Maybe you're not getting my point. When "Asian" youths come boiling out of a mosque - it gives the impression that they might be a bunch of Chinese kids."

I get your point fine, I just think you're wrong. No-one in the UK (and the article came from a local newspaper in the UK)would pause to consider that interpretation.

"I don't understand the Brit's aversion to calling Muslims Muslim."

Who do you think is worshipping in a mosque? There's hardly some conspiracy going on here to cover up the fact that Muslims were involved in the incident.

"Your insistance on calling Muslims "Asians" gives the appearance of Political Correctness taken to an extreme"

No-one is insisting on calling Muslims asian. As I've repeatedly pointed out the two words are in no way synonyms. Someone who would be given the ethnic description 'asian' does not by any means have to be a Muslim. A Muslim could be of any ethnic descent.

"If I was a Korean or Japanese living in Britain - I would be highly offended when I heard rioting muslim youths described as "Asian"."

I don't really see why. I wouldn't be offended if a group of rioting youths were described as 'white'.

"Some of the Muslims causing problems are not even Asian - there are Brits who have converted to Islam. If a bunch of English born converted Muslims start throwing rocks at cars - you can't very well call them "Asian", can you? You would be forced to call them what they are - "Muslims"."

Well, no. If the police were giving an ethnic description of these people then they would describe them as 'white' (or applicable ethnic description). Describing them as 'muslim' would give no details of their appearance at all. For precisely the same reasons as you used earlier to show why American police would give an ethnic description of 'black' rather than referring to someone as 'Jamaican'.


292 posted on 10/03/2006 9:26:02 AM PDT by Canard
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To: Canard
No-one is insisting on calling Muslims asian.

I have never - not once - never heard or read a report in the British press reporting that "muslim" youths were rioting or throwing stones at cars or whatever. It's ALWAYS - not once or twice - but always "Asian" youths.

As I keep saying, it isn't "asians" causing trouble - it's "muslims". Whether or not they are from Pakistan or Scotland, whether or not they are black, brown, yellow or white, it's the "muslims" causing problems - not asians, scots, blacks or whites.

We have a saying here in the States - "Let's call a spade a spade". Not a "agricultural tool" not a "garden implement" - a spade. Garden implements or agricultural tools could be rakes, shovels, wheelbarrows, hoes, scythes or many other items. A spade is a spade. Period. An Asian can be one of dozens of nationalities or colors or religions. A muslim is a muslim. Period.

297 posted on 10/03/2006 11:06:40 AM PDT by Tokra (I think I'll retire to Bedlam.)
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