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Foley and the Blame Game
The American Thinker ^
| 10-1-06
| Clarice Feldman
Posted on 10/02/2006 4:42:33 AM PDT by Renfield
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To: moondoggie
I read the IM... and FReeper ought to do and editorial that this is not what we stand for !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I will not FReep to protect a child molester
NEVER
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posted on
10/02/2006 6:30:09 AM PDT
by
Boner1
(Its Time to change are drug laws for some have gone on to be POTUS while other's have been inprison)
To: Dianna
We'll find out eventually what went down here. Maybe not until after the election, but I am very interested to know -- if the page's family did not want the email exchange released -- how they got that original "overly friendly" exchange in the first place.
To: Renfield
YOur suspicions about the timing of this issue appear to be valid
I agree with your suspicions, however, if the Republicans would stay out of trouble than the democratic party would not have any ammunition. The timing is suspect, but it was a Republican who is guilty of at least lapse of judgement. We just gave the democrats the opportunity to make us look foolish. I would imagine that we would get on the bandwagon if the situation were in reverse....oh yes we did Cynthia McKinney - she thankfully lost the primary because in part...US!!!!!
To: Renfield
FNC just reported Foley is in ALCOHOL REHAB!!!!!!
A homosexual solicits a child for sex and ALCOHOL REHAB is the treatment?
The crew, democrat dirty tricks team, should be reported for knowing about child endagerment (particularly if any of them are laweyrs)
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posted on
10/02/2006 6:36:22 AM PDT
by
longtermmemmory
(VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
To: AmishDude
Maybe not until after the election, but I am very interested to know -- if the page's family did not want the email exchange released -- how they got that original "overly friendly" exchange in the first place. The only place we knew for sure that had the e-mail (aside from Foley and the boy) was Alexander. He would be the first in line for suspicion, which makes me think it wasn't him.
I don't have a clue.
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posted on
10/02/2006 6:37:21 AM PDT
by
Dianna
To: moondoggie
facts and truth don't get in the way of a good democrat demmigogue - or smear now that I think of it.
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posted on
10/02/2006 6:45:20 AM PDT
by
camle
(keep your mind open and somebody will fill it full of something for you)
To: Renfield
ABC has not disclosed the names of the recipients of the instant messages which were sexually explicit, years old, and not seen by anyone else. We do not know how anyone but the recipients could have retrieved them. We do not even know if they are authentic. None of the recipients has come forward and identified himself. What we do know is that reputable media and the Republican leadership acted appropriately on the initial innocuous correspondence and could not proceed further in view of the parents demand that their sons privacy be respected only to find months later just before the election that same correpondence showing up on an unlikely blog site and then almost simultaneously on ABC and on C.R.E.W.s site.
ABC and C.R.E.W. knew of a child being solicited for sex and did nothing.
ABC and C.R.E.W. were ready to allow the horror of a child sexually molested by an adult in order to time the release!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
47
posted on
10/02/2006 6:46:17 AM PDT
by
longtermmemmory
(VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
To: Jedidah
"Does Foley think that slapping an "alcoholic" label on top of "pervert" somehow makes it better?"
It works if your name is Kennedy and you have a (D) after your name. As an aside, Yes Foley is a sicko.
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posted on
10/02/2006 6:46:24 AM PDT
by
AngieGOP
(I never met a woman who became a stripper because she played with Barbie dolls as a kid.)
To: All
ABC has not disclosed the names of the recipients of the instant messages which were sexually explicit, years old, and not seen by anyone else. We do not know how anyone but the recipients could have retrieved them. We do not even know if they are authentic. None of the recipients has come forward and identified himself. What we do know is that reputable media and the Republican leadership acted appropriately on the initial innocuous correspondence and could not proceed further in view of the parents demand that their sons privacy be respected only to find months later just before the election that same correpondence showing up on an unlikely blog site and then almost simultaneously on ABC and on C.R.E.W.s site.
ABC and C.R.E.W. knew of a child being solicited for sex and did nothing.
ABC and C.R.E.W. were ready to allow the horror of a child sexually molested by an adult in order to time the release!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
49
posted on
10/02/2006 6:46:28 AM PDT
by
longtermmemmory
(VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
To: Dianna
"The problem is that the rats, who are oh so worried about children, sat on this information until it was politically useful. How many children did Foley interact with while the Dems sat on this information?"
That may well be the case. My condemn is more direct. Regardless how the information was delayed, manipulated or covered up is of no great importance. Say, for instance, the Democrats manipulated the release of the information and Republicans crossed their fingers and held their noses over the past few years hoping nothing would become public. As a conservative I would be more upset with the Republicans.
The behavior of the Democrats may be predictable. But, I am not responsible for their choices. I am, however, deeply concerned with conservative choices and, for that, I am responsible.
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posted on
10/02/2006 6:47:05 AM PDT
by
spatso
To: moondoggie
I was researching all the child predator federal laws on explicit but not pornographic material and all of them up until July '06 have been ruled unconstitutional or sent back to the lower courts. The courts also ruled that the Feds were prohibited from enforcing the laws sent back for review. In July of '06 the President signed the Adam Walsh bill with Foley's punishment amendments. If the courts ruled the new law is constitutional then unless Foley sent "luring or explicit" e-mails on or after that date they can't retroactively prosecute him for his doings.
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posted on
10/02/2006 6:50:30 AM PDT
by
tobyhill
(The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
To: AmishDude
"We aren't as bad as them."
Stop your whining and sniveling. What is wrong with you? Simply, stand up, say this is unacceptable, fix it and move on. Everything about this file this morning appears to be a mistake. You cannot justify what is fundamentally corrupt. We do not believe in it, we reject it, we condemn it. If Democrats want to play politics with this matter, so be it. The only choice for conservatives is to act responsibly. If Democrats are outraged by the behavior, our only choice is to be more outraged.
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posted on
10/02/2006 6:54:50 AM PDT
by
spatso
To: Dianna
Alexander is a Republican, BTW, and if he really wanted to get Foley, he wouldn't do all of this cloak-and-dagger, Soros stuff. According to him, he never saw the emails. If he were lying, the parents would surely say otherwise.
The only people who saw the emails were the kid and the parents and Foley.
Unless we have a "Martins" situation in Florida again.
To: spatso
(1) Foley should resign. He should be drummed out of the party. He should be investigated, charged and convicted if he's committed any crimes. And he should get the max.
(2) However the timing of all this demonstrates that Foley isn't the only criminal: Democrat activists have clearly known for months, and have been able to prove for months, that Foley was a sexual predator.
A good citizen who cared about the welfare of his fellow citizens would have reported Foley as soon as they had hard evidence.
But these Democratic activists decided to wait for months until just before the election to reveal the information.
People could have been victimized while they waited, but they didn't care.
It was more important for them to score a political point than to do the right thing.
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posted on
10/02/2006 7:03:47 AM PDT
by
wideawake
("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
To: wideawake
"People could have been victimized while they waited, but they didn't care."
Absolute total nonsense! Whatever the Democrats knew the Republicans knew it before them. I totally reject conservatives choosing this line of moral reasoning in order to avoid responsibility. If the behavior is unacceptable in Democrats, it is doubly unacceptable for conservatives. This is not a time to go wobbly on values.
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posted on
10/02/2006 7:11:36 AM PDT
by
spatso
To: spatso
Whatever the Democrats knew the Republicans knew it before them. Incorrect.
The evidence given in this article shows that the information which proved wrongdoing was new to the GOP.
If the GOP actually knew that he was committing crimes months ago, they should have turned him in to prosecutors the second they had the evidence.
But the hard evidence seems to have been held only by CREW and ABC and revealed to the GOP only days ago.
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posted on
10/02/2006 7:25:07 AM PDT
by
wideawake
("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
To: Renfield
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posted on
10/02/2006 7:38:37 AM PDT
by
kalee
To: Renfield
I forgot about Mel Reynolds!!! Clinton gave him some kind of job afterwords.
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posted on
10/02/2006 7:43:20 AM PDT
by
Suzy Quzy
("When Cabals Go Kabooms"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
To: ClaireSolt
Urging foley to turn over a new page.
(..and join the democrat party)
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posted on
10/02/2006 7:58:16 AM PDT
by
longtermmemmory
(VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
To: spatso
It's unacceptable and it's fixed. He's out of Congress and subject to prosecution (although if there is no other evidence, he probably will get probation).
Now, what did they know and when did they know it?
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