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Rep. Mark Foley drops out of race [Fox: also resigned]

Posted on 09/29/2006 12:01:58 PM PDT by Lunatic Fringe

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To: Political Junkie Too
It's one thing to run hit pieces on a candidate over a position he/she took, it's another to destroy one's life and force him out of office just to run unopposed.

The Allen crap is one thing, but this is entirely different. While I agree that this info was probably held until it was too late to replace Foley, if the charges are TRUE, then we're just screwed.

The right answer is that our candidates have to stop being crooks, thieves, and perverts. Then, it wouldn't matter what the law was.

301 posted on 09/29/2006 1:00:14 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: boxerblues
SOMETHING IS NOT RIGHT!!

The e-mail is dated July 29, 2005 but mentions the "hurricane" (Katrina) which hit Louisiana on August 29, 2005.

Why would Foley ask this kid about the hurricane a month before it hit?

http://abcnews.go.com/images/WNT/Foley_email_one_page.pdf
302 posted on 09/29/2006 1:00:22 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: roses of sharon

"LOL, wow, I missed that "Hetros-who-have-anal-sex" constituency asking for civil rights protections!"

While not my particular cup o' tea, that particular "enjoyment" is still illegal in many states. Rightly or wrongly.

Not my business, as long as both are consenting and of legal age.


303 posted on 09/29/2006 1:00:22 PM PDT by hotshu
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To: boxerblues

Do you know how easy it is to fake AIM records, especially chat transcripts? I could create an AIM conversation between the two of us talking about flying red donkeys and it would look authentic and it would take me about 10 seconds. ABC does not have the legal authority to get access to anything on AOL's end either, so there's absolutely no proof of what they say. I'm not sure if even the FBI could get this kind of log because I'm not sure what records of AIM conversations are kept by AOL for long periods of time.

The bottom line in my mind is whether the guy solicited the kids for sex. That would be illegal. Telling them a dirty joke most likely would not be, but I admit that would be of questionable morality.


304 posted on 09/29/2006 1:00:31 PM PDT by NinoFan
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To: Ron in Acreage

LOL, great post!


305 posted on 09/29/2006 1:00:43 PM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: Alter Kaker

But it would give us a better shot at the Senate seat...


306 posted on 09/29/2006 1:00:52 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: Post-Neolithic

I have trouble beliving it's a different age of concent depending on your sexual orientation.

I'm not for most supposed 'gay rights' laws, but it doesn't seem right to me that the age of concent would be different for some reason.


307 posted on 09/29/2006 1:00:59 PM PDT by zbigreddogz
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To: AmishDude

Refresher, from Wikipedia:

Gerry Eastman Studds (born May 12, 1937) is a retired American politician, born in Mineola, New York. He served as a Democratic Congressman for Massachusetts from 1973 until 1996. He was the first openly homosexual member of the US Congress and, more generally, the first openly gay national politician in the US.

Biography

Studds attended Yale University, from which he received a bachelor's degree in history in 1959 and a master's degree in 1961. Following graduation Studds was a foreign service officer in the State Department and then an assistant in the Kennedy White House, where he worked to establish a domestic Peace Corps. Later he became a teacher at a St. Paul's School.

Studds made his first run for public Congress in 1970, but lost to the incumbent Republican representative in a close election. In his second bid, Studds succeeded, becoming the first Democrat in fifty years to win what had been considered a safe Republican seat.

Studds and his longtime partner, Dean Hara, who have been together since 1991, applied for a marriage license on May 18 and were married in Boston on May 24, 2005, one week after same-sex marriages became legal in Massachusetts.
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Congressional page sex scandal

Studds is remembered chiefly for his role in the Congressional page sex scandal in 1983, when he and Representative Dan Crane were censured by the House of Representatives for separate sexual relationships with a minor – in Studds's case, a 1973 relationship with a 17-year-old male congressional page.

During the course of the House Ethics Committee's investigation, Studds publicly acknowledged his homosexuality, a disclosure that, according to a Washington Post article, "apparently was not news to many of his constituents." Studds stated in an address to the House, "It is not a simple task for any of us to meet adequately the obligations of either public or private life, let alone both, but these challenges are made substantially more complex when one is, as I am, both an elected public official and gay."

As the House read their censure of him, Studds turned his back and ignored them. Later, at a press conference with the former page standing beside him, the two stated that what had happened between them was nobody's business but their own.
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Back onboard

Studds was re-elected five more terms after the censure. He fought for many issues, including environmental and maritime issues, gay marriage, AIDS funding, and civil rights, particularly for homosexuals. In 1995 the Republican-controlled Congress abolished the House Merchant Marine and Fishing Committee, of which he had been chairman.

Since retiring from Congress in 1997, Studds has been a lobbyist for the fishing industry. His husband is Dean T. Hara.


308 posted on 09/29/2006 1:01:17 PM PDT by Pokey78 (‘FREE [INSERT YOUR FETID TOTALITARIAN BASKET-CASE HERE]’)
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To: GatorGirl

"If this had been going on all along, it should have been brought up immediately by these so called "concerned" individuals. It is less than 40 days before the election, and even sooner if you count "early voting". Instead of bringing this to the light of day when it was happening, they wait until too close to the election to field another candidate but yet far enough out for maximum impact. I could still spit!!!"

I agree. Is it indeed too late to get someone else on the ballot?


309 posted on 09/29/2006 1:01:23 PM PDT by penelopesire
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To: conservative in nyc

Oh, yah, sorry, I didn't read it closely enough.


310 posted on 09/29/2006 1:02:29 PM PDT by zbigreddogz
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To: GatorGirl
Instead of bringing this to the light of day when it was happening, they wait until too close to the election to field another candidate but yet far enough out for maximum impact. I could still spit!!!

Perhaps his replacement could make hay over this. As soon as we knew Foley was dirty, we threw him overboard. His opponent apparently was happy to let children be abused until the timing worked for him.

311 posted on 09/29/2006 1:02:33 PM PDT by Dianna
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To: trumandogz

How do you know he was referring to Katrina? There were other hurricanes that year.


312 posted on 09/29/2006 1:02:36 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Sam Spade; NYCConservative

It appears you beat me to it.


313 posted on 09/29/2006 1:02:49 PM PDT by Torie
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To: zbigreddogz
Looks like it might be true.

Cr@p... Double cr@p.

314 posted on 09/29/2006 1:02:54 PM PDT by processing please hold
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To: conservative in nyc

How many people could stomach voting for him, though, even if they were really voting for some other guy?


315 posted on 09/29/2006 1:03:28 PM PDT by GraniteStateConservative (...He had committed no crime against America so I did not bring him here...-- Worst.President.Ever.)
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To: Diddle E. Squat

Wouldn't work, Katherine is in the 13th district, this is the 16th.


316 posted on 09/29/2006 1:03:31 PM PDT by darkangel82 (Higher visibility leads to greater zottability.)
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To: evad

"May I correct that to read, "until a Kennedy get's caught doing it."




A Kennedy DID get almost caught drowning a pregnant aid and has been re-elected every time since 1968. Again, (I really HATE repeating myself) he's immune - from mASSachusetts!


317 posted on 09/29/2006 1:04:25 PM PDT by hotshu
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To: trumandogz

Hurricane Emily hit the Gulf in that time frame. Katrina wasn't the only hurricane to hit the area that summer - just the worst.


318 posted on 09/29/2006 1:04:26 PM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: trumandogz

Link doesn't work.

But if you are right, that's really, really, really weird.

I'm guessing it's dated 2006, not 2005.


319 posted on 09/29/2006 1:04:35 PM PDT by zbigreddogz
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To: dfwgator
The Kid lives in Louisiana.

Katrina hit on August 29 and Rita hit three weeks later.

However, this alleged e-mail exchange took place on July 29.
320 posted on 09/29/2006 1:04:36 PM PDT by trumandogz
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