[js1138]

We'd still like to see random mutation and natural selection produce life.

If you are so ignorant as to confuse biogenesis with evolution, then you are beyond help.

If -- rather than "produce life" -- you mean "account for changes in populations over time," I think we can see that. As another freeper might say, take it up with Yockey.

The mechanisms of variation are there and can be observed, the mechanisms of selection are there and have been harnessed by breeders for centuries, the evidence in ERVs is there to demonstrate continuity, and the unity and continuity of cellular machinery is there.

[SirLinksalot]

The mechanisms of variation are there and can be observed, the mechanisms of selection are there and have been harnessed by breeders for centuries, the evidence in ERVs is there to demonstrate continuity, and the unity and continuity of cellular machinery is there.

How is that evidence for RM+NS. The cellular machinery has been in placed ( question -- how does RM+NS produce this machinery in the first place ? ).

Then you use the words : "harnessed by breeders". Breeders ? wow, that's random indeed.