Posted on 09/27/2006 9:56:09 AM PDT by SirLinksalot
I haven't read the book, but Betty Boop has. Perhaps she'd care to respond.
Can you give me an example of information that is not instantiated?
Good post.
Placemarker
God created all the languages (see tower of Babel) so I firmly believe that while minor things can be lost in translation nothing which God has wanted mankind to know has been lacking throughout the ages. He states that His laws are written on our hearts - therefore no matter the interpretation of the 10 commandments mankind knows intuitively not to steal, kill, lie, dishonor God nor parents, etc.
Does it really matter what scholars and experts say or doesn't the clear language in the Bible define a literal day ('there was evening and there was morning')?
Here's something to simplify it even more. My late uncle - John - was mentally retarded from birth and never exceeded the intellectual capacity of a 5-6 year old yet he heard enough of the Bible and believed in his heart that Jesus was the Christ, the Son of God and accepted Him as his Lord and Saviour. The Bible is also clear that when the innocent die - those not aware of their sins, those who have not reached a mental age of accountability regardless of their physical age - go directly to be with God in heaven. John was 49 years old when he died and only God could know if he truly reached a mental age of accountability. I know of and have seen very many 6-8 year old children confess faith in Jesus Christ - including my own adopted son, my own biological daughter, and 2 more step-children who I love as much as my own kids. We all need to come to Christ with awe and reverence and child-like faith.
Intellect can be a hindrance and detriment if you allow 'pride to go before the fall'...
You should really think about going into the field of comedy. You have a gift to make people gag, I mean, laugh.
It's interesting that we have vast stores of information on the process of that creation. From this:
Fæder ure þu þe eart on heofonum; Si þin nama gehalgod to becume þin rice gewurþe ðin willa on eorðan swa swa on heofonum. urne gedæghwamlican hlaf syle us todæg and forgyf us ure gyltas swa swa we forgyfað urum gyltendum and ne gelæd þu us on costnunge ac alys us of yfele soþlice.
to this:
Our father which art in heauen, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdome come. Thy will be done, in earth, as it is in heauen. Giue vs this day our daily bread. And forgiue vs our debts, as we forgiue our debters. And lead vs not into temptation, but deliuer vs from euill: For thine is the kingdome, and the power, and the glory, for euer, Amen.
to this:
Our Father, who art in heaven, Hallowed be thy Name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, On earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, As we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, But deliver us from evil. For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever and ever. Amen.
And, of course there's all those Italians still speaking Latin.
Your story makes our point: The Bible is a spiritual text. It does indeed write on the heart aboud how to live your life. I agree with you that a childlike approach to God and Jesus is probably the best way to approach Him.
But when attempting to use a spiritual manual as a scientific text, you then have to look at the exact text and determine if it has scientific heft.
To do that you need to know EXACTLY what was said and the proper context within which it was said.
"Ask, and ye shall ignore"
Elsie's a credit to his side.
I am actually starting to lean back and enjoy Elsie's one liners.
They don't any particular intellectual damage and are some times quite witty.
And, as you say, he shines a light.
Brightest bulb in the pack.
Did you ever read "Good News?" (the "standard colloquial English" Bible). I think that one went:
"Hey Dad, you are #1. Whatever you want, you got. Forgive me when do bad and forgive them what does bad to me. Help me not to screw up and keep me away from bad dudes. You the Man."
And this is NOT sacrilege, but a reasonable modern English restatement of this passage.
I think the problem with his side is that, in the end, all questions are rhetorical because all answers are known.
Like the one the Grinch had to replace.
Insulting me does not demonstrate, to any degree, that your claims are correct.
That must be why he sent me off for an hour to find stuff he asked for, and then never responded.
I could live with his beliefs if he were a gentleman.
I wasn't insulting you. I was complimenting you.
Having fun, little spammer?...its amusing to watch you tho..you are nothing, if not predictable...no reasonable discussion comes from you, just lots of spam...we know you will pop up again, and spam with the same silly questions...continue on, I am sure you will...
That's only when he's wearing his theologian's hat. Newton could be the same way.
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