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To: LIConFem
I'm all for good Christian education. I just hope Fischer isn't trying to out-Islam Islam.

I'm not suprised at the existence of this radical, kook-fringe Christianity. For people like this, religion is incidental to the deeper psychological pathologies. They are dangerous, and need to be shut down because what they are doing here is truly child abuse.

At the same time, I am concerned that kook fringe groups like this will define Evangelical Christianity. The last thing Christians need is for Jesus Camp to be the image the world takes away from evangelical youth ministry. As someone who has worked in Christian camps through college, I can emphasize that the hatred and intolerance spewed on the trailer is not what we taught there.

There's also the possiblity - which I discount, but it should be stated - that the footage may be manipulated via editing and selective quotations of the kids to make the camp, and by extension, Christians, look far worse than it actually is.

15 posted on 09/27/2006 6:57:37 AM PDT by jude24 ("I will oppose the sword if it's not wielded well, because my enemies are men like me.")
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To: jude24

It does look really bad, all by itself. A segment on GMA just now was devoted to it. The kids were scary in their intensity.


17 posted on 09/27/2006 7:02:43 AM PDT by Rte66
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To: jude24

I can back you up on that. I have some involvement with a Christian Camp as a bus driver and a few other things. Behaviour like portrayed in thsi film is counter to the reality of Christian camps.


19 posted on 09/27/2006 7:06:04 AM PDT by cyclotic (Support Cub Scouting-Raising boys to be men, and politically incorrect at the same time.)
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To: jude24
For people like this, religion is incidental to the deeper psychological pathologies. They are dangerous, and need to be shut down because what they are doing here is truly child abuse.

Precisely.

At the same time, I am concerned that kook fringe groups like this will define Evangelical Christianity.

That depends: will other evangelical Christians unambiguously denounce this sort of abusive brainwashing, or will they spew CAIR-like equivocations on the subject?

58 posted on 09/27/2006 5:35:58 PM PDT by steve-b (The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule.)
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To: jude24

They are dangerous, and need to be shut down because what they are doing here is truly child abuse.



No.

A) Freedom of religion
B) Entertainment value


59 posted on 09/27/2006 5:39:09 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: jude24

At the same time, I am concerned that kook fringe groups like this will define Evangelical Christianity. The last thing Christians need is for Jesus Camp to be the image the world takes away from evangelical youth ministry. As someone who has worked in Christian camps through college, I can emphasize that the hatred and intolerance spewed on the trailer is not what we taught there.



I agree with this. I saw this segment on GMA and it was truly frightening. I am a Christian and a practicing Catholic and would never send my kids to anything close to a camp like this.


61 posted on 09/28/2006 7:56:14 AM PDT by amutr22 (Remember....Friend's Don't Let Friends Vote Democrat!)
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To: jude24

That's your opinion and, opinions are like a**holes, we all have one.


70 posted on 09/28/2006 12:57:54 PM PDT by buck61
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