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To: LukeL

After Jesus was crucified, the fuse was lit on the Temple. It was no longer needed. The Jews believed the Temple was "cage" for God. God didn't agree. When the Temple was destroyed, so was Judaism as it had been defined by the various sects(Pharisees, Saducees, etc). By that time, Christianity had a foothold in the Jewish world. Jews, who had worshipped the Temple for so long, found themselves without anything to worship.

The "outside" Jews who were too far from the Jerusalem to worship the Temple, became the lynchpin for Judaism. The first became last and the last became first.


9 posted on 09/26/2006 6:38:46 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: AppyPappy
By that time, Christianity had a foothold in the Jewish world. Jews, who had worshipped the Temple for so long, found themselves without anything to worship. The "outside" Jews who were too far from the Jerusalem to worship the Temple, became the lynchpin for Judaism. The first became last and the last became first.

Perhaps you are mis-typing? The Jews never worshipped the temple. They worshipped in the temple. The Jews also worshipped (and still do) in Synagogues, and have never "found themselves without anything to worship." When you make such interesting and provocative claims about a religion, it might help those of us who are not nearly as smart as you if you would provide links supporting your claims from authoritative texts. Thanks in advance.

18 posted on 09/26/2006 7:06:42 AM PDT by Tennessean4Bush (I would never belong to any club that would have someone like me as a member.)
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To: AppyPappy; Tennessean4Bush
AppyPappy said: Jews, who had worshipped the Temple for so long, found themselves without anything to worship.

Uh, point of order: Jews don't worship things, they do (and always have) worshipped only the One True G-d. We may revere certain people, items and places, but to worship or pray to any of them would be idolatry. The destruction of the 1st Temple and the scattering of our people to the 4 corners of the Earth didn't destroy us, nor did the destruction of the 2nd. Though our ancestors brought it upon themselves (and us, by extension), G-d has promised that He'd always protect us and that someday the 3rd Temple would be built.

Anyone who believed that the Temple was a "cage" for G-d was nothing more than a heretic. For you to ascribe that view to all of the establishment sects in Israel roughly 2,000 years ago is one of the most ill-informed things that I've ever heard. Oh, and the Pharisees did indeed survive - modern rabbinical Judaism (i.e. pretty much anything after the destruction of the 2nd Temple) can be traced directly to their teachings. We are here, as we have always been and always will be, as G-d promised.

32 posted on 09/26/2006 9:07:28 AM PDT by Ancesthntr
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To: AppyPappy
I regard my beliefs in keeping with Pharisaic Judaism. And I think Jesus did too.

Hyam Maccoby, Revolution In Judaea: Jesus and the Jewish Resistance

47 posted on 09/26/2006 12:11:46 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: AppyPappy
After Jesus was crucified, the fuse was lit on the Temple. It was no longer needed. The Jews believed the Temple was "cage" for God. God didn't agree. When the Temple was destroyed, so was Judaism as it had been defined by the various sects(Pharisees, Saducees, etc). By that time, Christianity had a foothold in the Jewish world. Jews, who had worshipped the Temple for so long, found themselves without anything to worship.

The "outside" Jews who were too far from the Jerusalem to worship the Temple, became the lynchpin for Judaism. The first became last and the last became first.

Replacement theology is increasingly discredited. You can find an objective and scholarly analysis of Romans here.

73 posted on 09/26/2006 2:59:43 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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To: AppyPappy

huh?

Are you saying that the people who brought monotheism to the world 1) worshipped a building? thought that God could be "caged?"

"The "outside" Jews who were too far from the Jerusalem to worship the Temple, became the lynchpin for Judaism."

No. They lost their Jewish identity.

Your whole post is wrong.


74 posted on 09/26/2006 3:11:19 PM PDT by dervish (Rachel weeps for her children, she refuses to be consoled. Shalit, Goldwasser, Regev)
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