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Aside from the antisocial aspects many of the characteristics are that of very masculine young men who lose these characteristics as they enter their thirtys.

That's like saying "Aside from the murder rate, Detroit has little crime." The Hare PCL-R checklist is the most widely used and probably most valid measure of psychopathy today, and does not require direct personal testing. While there are detailed criteria for scoring, it is not hard, and pretty much yields to plain English application. Nor does it imply the kind of conventional dysfunctions assumed to be characteristic of personality disorders. Highly narcissistic psychopaths often can be well organized, intelligent, and successful in manipulating and evading the usual limits and consequences on their behavior. They seldom show up in psychiatrists' offices exactly for this reason. Hare's classic book "Without Conscience" includes numerous illustrations, as well as the frequency with which these guys sucker women into believing in them, their stories and scams.

On the PCL btw, Clinton stacks up with a score equivalent to that of the average incarcerated felon. Which is where he belongs.

Clinton is three things

1. a Narrcissist

2. a pathological liar

3. a mama's boy

Of course Hillary is Joseph Stalin trapped in a woman's body but that is another story.

But of course Clinton never hesitated to attack "enemies" he thought he could "take" ...

Mrs. Mendoza did not feel it was appropriate for the president of the United States to impose himself on her and she had no intention of shaking his hand. Further, Mrs. Mendoza was upset over last month's bombing deaths of 19 U.S. airmen in Saudi Arabia. The president grasped her hand and she protested with words of protest:

"You suck, and those boys died!" Mrs. Mendoza has said the president looked her in the eyes, then motioned to an assistant and pointed her out, as he continued on past her through the crowd attempting to get photos of people shaking hands with him.

After Clinton left the area, Secret Service agents pounced on Mrs. Mendoza and accused her of "threatening" president Clinton. At that point Mr. Mendoza ordered his wife not to say anything until she consulted an attorney.

However, Secret Service spokesperson Arnette Heintze said yesterday that "A direct threat was made, but I'm not going to elaborate. Mrs. Mendoza has a right to fair representation of her case, as does the prosecution, and the newspaper is not the proper place to air this case."

and by the way Clinton sent the FBI after the Kobar Tower Bombers and they promptly got no where...terrorism treated as a law enforcement problem is a failed strategy..

I'll repeat my criticism of the check list. It is first of all one dimensional. It takes a number of characteristics open to dispute and inquiry and comes up with an overall diagnosis that has pejorative characteristics. The whole problem of personality diagnoses is they are soft, fuzzy concepts of which any given one or more characteristics are commonly found in normal people.

Second, the list does not correct for age and maturation.

Third, the list does not discriminate between people on the basis of functioning. By any standard President Clinton is a high functioning person. He has many personality flaws that mirror several personality disorders, but the most likely way to understand him is to use "trait" instead of disorder.

It is generally assumed a psychological disorder requires impaired functioning and/or personal pain. It is much to easy to use a personality diagnosis as a pejorative label rather than firm, hard moral and political judgments as to his behavior.