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The Alex Foundation ^ | Oct,24 .2006 | Dr. Pepperberg

Posted on 09/24/2006 6:20:37 AM PDT by grjr21

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Can we train him to work the Polls.


How many dead voters ?

How many illegal aliens?

1 posted on 09/24/2006 6:20:39 AM PDT by grjr21
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To: grjr21

Watch this problem solving crow: http://youtube.com/watch?v=03ykewnc0oE


2 posted on 09/24/2006 6:30:35 AM PDT by Andy from Beaverton (I'm so anti-pc, I use a Mac)
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African Grey Parrots are superb mimics. Years ago (1970's) I owned a Pet Store that specialized in exotics (this was before they became tightly controlled)and among them had an African Grey as a mascot (not for sale). There was no sound or phrase he could not master within a few hours or at the most a couple of days.

We kept him up front by the check out counter and that is where the phone was. I cannot tell you how many times I would be in the back and would hear the phone ring and as I went to get it I would hear my own voice saying "Hello, (name of store), can I help you"? He would mimic dogs barking, cat's meowing, birds chirping, canaries singing, etc. Unfortunately one of my employees taught him the phrase, "You're an assh*le" and the bird would come out with the phrase at any time. Never once did anyone take offense at this and in fact all thought it was quite hilarious. I did put a small sign under his perch (no cage for this guy) that read "Beware, Marcus uses naughty language". Almost all who read the sign wanted me to make him swear.

Somehow I don't think the reaction today would be quite the same.
3 posted on 09/24/2006 6:37:11 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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I went to the wedding of a friend's daugher in August, and just happened to be sitting next to Dr. Pepperberg (until now, when I read this article, I had no idea what her name was). When we struck up some conversation to pass the time and I asked her what she did for a living, she said she studies Animal Behavior...now...as far as conversation material, one has to admit, that is pretty fertile ground!

So she told me about "Alex", whom she has been working with for a long time (20-30 years!). She said it is like working with a willful teenager!

But that wasn't the most interesting story...she told me about a study she was doing on marine life at the New England Aquarium which kind of creeped me out.

Apparently, tropical fish began to disappear from their tanks, some of them quite expensive. The management surmised that someone on the staff was stealing them and selling them on the side, as has happened at some other aquariums. It can be quite lucrative, apparently.

So they set up a surveillance camera to catch the thief.

Sometime after the place was locked up and shut down, they saw some movement on the camera. On one of the tanks, the lid popped up, and...an octopus pulled itself out of its tank.

It slithered across the tops of the tanks to another tank, pulled the top off, reached inside with its tentacles and grabbed a fish, pulled its tentacles out, put the top back on the tank, went back to its own tank, went inside, pulled its own tank top back on, and had dinner!!!!!!!!


4 posted on 09/24/2006 6:43:06 AM PDT by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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To: Eagles Talon IV

My dad was in the Navy, and one of the Chiefs who worked under him at one of his duty stations owned a Myna Bird. And it had a filthy mouth...

Its favorite phrase was "Son of a bitching dog!"

Somehow, it could never manage "Merry Christmas", one of its other phrases.

It would say "Merrrrryyyyyyyyyy..." and just stop there.


5 posted on 09/24/2006 6:49:20 AM PDT by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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To: Eagles Talon IV

I will bet just as many people today would want to make him swear.

Human nature. I remember when desktop computers first gave people the ability to type something in and have the computer read it back...it seems like swear words were the only thing I ever heard them do!


6 posted on 09/24/2006 6:51:07 AM PDT by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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To: Eagles Talon IV
I have an Indian Ringneck while nowhere near A Grey in Intelligence still does some amazing things .
He can laugh like a human , but what amazes me is that he only laughs at the appropriate time.
He plays Peek-A- boo as well as any child.
He's fully flighted and if he makes a bad landing he'll look around to see if anybody saw it and then bow down his head in shame.
This is all from an animal with the brain the size of a shelled peanut
7 posted on 09/24/2006 6:52:01 AM PDT by grjr21
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To: Andy from Beaverton

Now, I know crows are a pain in the ass sometimes, especially when they are having a caw fest outside your bedroom window on a Sunday morning...

But I like crows. They have balls. And, are pretty smart (for birds)

I love they way they play "chicken" with cars as they eat carrion in the middle of roads. I like to throw off their reckoning and watch em react when I steer towards them as they hop nonchalantly off to the shoulder.

But they know I am not going to leave the road and hit them...they just sit there.


8 posted on 09/24/2006 6:55:57 AM PDT by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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I read an article somewhere online about an octopus at a giant outdoor aquarium (probably a Seaworld) that used to follow around the diver who was cleaning his tank. He was a large octopus, and the diver found this a little creepy. Every day the diver would go in, gather up debris into one spot, and when it was all gathered, put the debris in a sack and remove it, the octopus following him every "step" of the way. After about a month of this, the diver entered the tank-and discovered that the octopus had already gathered all the debris which would normally be gathered, and placed it all in the spot where it was normally placed for removal! After that, the octopus always had the debris ready for the diver, and a 30 minute cleaning job had been reduced to less than 3. I wish I had the link to the original story for you.


9 posted on 09/24/2006 7:07:22 AM PDT by Verloona Ti (Moslems are sensitive to everything except the screams of their victims being tortured)
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To: rlmorel

I had a pet crow as a kid. Incredibly smart! Ravens can live over 50 years.


10 posted on 09/24/2006 7:08:15 AM PDT by Andy from Beaverton (I'm so anti-pc, I use a Mac)
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To: grjr21

So your saying he's overqualified to be a poll worker in Palm Beach County?


11 posted on 09/24/2006 7:11:09 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The hallmark of a crackpot conspiracy theory is that it expands to include countervailing evidence.)
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I wouldn't go that far.
But it does go to show you the difference between home schooled and a Public education.
12 posted on 09/24/2006 7:17:03 AM PDT by grjr21
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Makes you wounder. Since birds are descended from ancient reptiles, the earth might be populated by sentient dinosaurs if the extinction event 65m years ago hadn't occurred. Alex shows remarkable potential.


13 posted on 09/24/2006 7:18:23 AM PDT by SunTzuWu (Hans Delbruck - Scientist and Saint.)
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Animals are intelligent and emotionally sophisticated. Many clearly love and are affectionate. They also experience fear and pain. I do not kill or eat animals. My wife and I do not allow hunting on our property. We particularly avoid restaurants that serve lamb, veal, or foie gras.

We have a red-naped Amazon parrot. She is cantankerous and will snap or bite. A few years ago, she broke her leg in a flight accident. She was obviously in terrible pain, shaking, suffering, and unable to get comfortable on her perch. We put her in a box, lined with cotton, to make her as comfortable as possible, and took her to a veterinary specialist at the vet. school in another state, a journey of quite a few hours. The vet. examined her and set her leg in a cast. When enough time had elapsed for the break to heal, we took her back to the vet. to have the cast removed.

The remarkable thing is that throughout this entire ordeal, she never once snapped at us, the vet., or anyone else. Evidently, she knew that we were helping her, and she trusted us. She was as docile as a kitten.

After her broken leg had healed and she was comfortable again, she returned to her old cantankerous, snappy self. That's how she is now.

14 posted on 09/24/2006 7:19:14 AM PDT by Savage Beast ( 9/11 was never repeated thanks to President George W. Bush.)
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Certain Octopus species have evolved to living out of water for much of their lives. Check this type of octopus out.  

p.s. Read the site very carefully. ;-)

15 posted on 09/24/2006 7:19:57 AM PDT by Ghengis (Alexander was a wuss!)
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I wouldn't [so far as saying he's overqualified.]

So you rate him as "well qualified"?

16 posted on 09/24/2006 7:25:26 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The hallmark of a crackpot conspiracy theory is that it expands to include countervailing evidence.)
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To: SunTzuWu; PatrickHenry
Since birds are descended from ancient reptiles,



Sheee, Be carefull saying that aloud around here
17 posted on 09/24/2006 7:27:23 AM PDT by grjr21
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To: rlmorel
When we struck up some conversation to pass the time and I asked her what she did for a living, she said she studies Animal Behavior...

I presume she came for the reception.

< }B^)

18 posted on 09/24/2006 7:31:12 AM PDT by Erasmus (I invited Benoit Mandelbrot to the Shoreline Grill, but he never got there.)
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To: Ichneumon

African grey Ping


19 posted on 09/24/2006 7:34:15 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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Amazing story!! I understand Octopus (Octopi?)are very intelligent.


20 posted on 09/24/2006 8:14:35 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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