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To: robertpaulsen
First of all, I'm not confused.

Ok - i was trying to be polite. Would you prefer i said you were retarded?

Second, "prior restraint" only applies to speech/press issues, so there's no one-to-one comparison to anything else.

Where on God's green Earth did you get that silly-assed idea?

I'm saying that the second amendment may be reasonably regulated as well as the first or any other amendment.

Care to explain how? I fail to see how the phrase "...shall not be infringed." allows any room for legislation or restriction. As stated before, "well regulated" and "well-regulated" are two very different terms.

To say that we can't touch the holy second amendment is ludicrous -- that we must protect the right to keep and bear all arms, by all individuals, all the time.

Why? We allow all sorts of things under the 1st Amendment.

Are you aware that when the South lost the war, even THEN they were not disarmed - after having just taken up arms against the state in open rebellion? Even Lincoln recognized "thou shalt not fuck with a man's right to be armed" may have well been the 11th Commandment.

For fuck's sake, even the Congressional debates on the 1934 NFA acknowledged that Congress couldnt simply outlaw certain weapons as it would violate the 2nd Amendment. Thats why the NFA is written as a TAX measure and why the ATF was tasked with its enforcement, as until recently, they were part of the Treasury Department.

It could even be legitimately argued that the 1968 GCA and the 1986 FOPA were constructed as "interstate commerce" regulations as Congress knew to simply pass those laws without some perverse justification they would be tossed out as unconstitutional violations of the 2nd Amendment.

Oh, and to the best of my knowledge, the government does not punish irresponsible acts. We punish illegal acts.

Good qualifier, and nice wordsmithing.

The government punishes irresponsible acts by making such acts illegal.

504 posted on 10/03/2006 5:12:57 PM PDT by HonorsDaddy
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To: HonorsDaddy
"I fail to see how the phrase "...shall not be infringed." allows any room for legislation or restriction."

I understand. A low IQ has that effect.

"Along with the lower standards of rational basis review and intermediate scrutiny, strict scrutiny is part of a hierarchy of standards courts employ to weigh an asserted government interest against a constitutional right or policy that conflicts with the manner in which the interest is being pursued."

See? Constitutional rights may indeed be reasonably regulated.

"We allow all sorts of things under the 1st Amendment."

I note that you didn't say we allow everything under the 1st Amendment. Some infringing going on with the 1st?

"Good qualifier, and nice wordsmithing."

Hah! This coming from Mr. Well Regulated. Or is it Mr. Well-Regulated?

519 posted on 10/04/2006 9:15:32 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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