Some of this reminding me of ridiculous bumper sticker seen around recently:
"WHEN CLINTON LIED, NOBODY DIED"
Obviously, some weird excuse by people who haven't actually listened to this man's comments (or noted his actual presidency).
Seems to show how bizarre the logic can get though... (and why there's no way to argue with such people!)
I found this post today on another site (not usually known for rational threads) but thought it was amusing and related to your point.
--aragona
DOWNSIDE LEGACY AT TWO DEGREES OF PRESIDENT CLINTON
SECTION: REMEMBERING THE DEAD
SUBSECTION: List of Names
Revised 7/14/00
SUICIDES
Vincent Foster (Whitehouse Deputy Counsel, Gunshot to mouth, neck wounds)
Kathy Ferguson (ex-wife of Clinton co-defendant, Gunshot to head)
Bill Shelton (Arkansas state trooper, Kathy Ferguson´s fiancee, Gunshot to head)
Susan Coleman (Alleged Clinton Girlfriend, 7.5 months pregnant, Gunshot to head)
Jon Parnell Walker (RTC Investigator on Whitewater, fell from top of Lincoln Towers)
Niko Junic (In charge of the radio beacon/Brown Crash, Gunshot)
John A. Wilson (Former Wash D.C. councilman, hung)
Terrance Yeakey (First policeman at the Murrah Building, gun shot wound/slashes)
Ian Spiro (Inslaw Witness, Gunshot to Head)
Sharlott A. Donovan (Ret TechSgt/WH Comm Office, Plastic Bag over Head)
Admiral Boorda (CNO, gunshot chest)
Frank Aller (Clinton roommate at Oxford, repentant of draft dodging, Gunshot to mouth)
Robert Bates (Mena mechanic, witness) - drank himself to death on mouthwash
James Bunch ("Black Book" keeper, gunshot)
Wallace Blaylock (husband of Lenora Steinkamp - lady in Drudge video taped 93 aired 9/98, gunshot)
Raymond Albright (shot 5 times in chest, ruled suicide by M.E. Malak)
Charles Wilbourne Miller, Exec of Alltel - successor to Jackson Stephen´s Systematics (gunshot)
Gordon Matteson (Clinton friend/associate, Shot to head)
Danny Casolaro (Investigator Inslaw, "Octopus" - Wrists Slashed)
Calvin Walraven (Witness Jocelyn Elders son´s drug case, Gunshot)
Marine Cpl Eric S. Fox, assigned to helicopter squadron for president (gun shot to head)
Peter John Berwick, shot to death witness in federal investigation Arkansas company
John Arthur Paisley (CIA, gunshot to head, found in river
)
Laurence Martin (OKC surviver, suicide by plane crash)
Kenneth Trentadue (OK prisoner)
Li Fuxiang (foreign exchange, jump)
John I Millis (House Intelligence, CIA)
Evan Hunziker (held in North Korea)
Charlene Edwards (INS Miami)
Franz Lanz (ARL scientist, informant)
HOMICIDES
Mary Mahoney (Former White House intern shot multiple times in a Starbucks, pockets picked, no cash register money taken)
Luther "Jerry" Parks (Provided security for Clinton´s campaign, multiple gunshots)
Kevin Ives (Witness to Mena, skull crushed, left to be run over by train)
Don Henry (Witness to Mena, stabbed, left to be run over by train)
Eric Butera (Starbucks informant, beaten to death in sting)
Jeff Rhodes (Ives/Henry Witness, gunshot to head)
Ed Gould (Clinton´s HIV/AIDS Advisory Council, Toxic)
Florence Martin (Accountant with info on Barry Seal, Gunshot to head)
Alder Berriman (Barry) Seal (Mena, Murdered)
Keith McKaskle (Ives/Henry Informant, Stabbed)
Gregory Collins (Ives/Henry Informant, Gunshot to Head)
James Milon (Ives/Henry Informant, Decapitated)
Richard Winters (Ives/Henry Suspect, Shotgunned)
Jordan Ketelson (Ives/Henry Informant, Shotgunned)
Larry Guerin (Inslaw Investigator, unknown)
Alan Standorf (NSA, Inslaw Investigator, unknown)
Dennis Eisman (Inslaw attorney, Shot)
Mitchell D. Abel, (Cocaine dealer and student re Tyson, Gunshot)
Mike Samples (Ives/Henry witness)
Eric L. Henderson (financial advisor to Ron Brown, shot while riding bicycle)
Steve Leung (investor in China, beaten)
Mary Beth (Pixie) Grismore (politically connected, murdered)
Judy Danielak (journalist, sniper)
Cecil Boren (by escaped inmate, tainted blood whistleblower)
Lee Scott Hall (stabbed, Lawrence Livermore Lab employee)
JohnD Muskopf (CIA Analyst, murder in robbery attempt)
DIXIE MAFIA RELATED
Note: all are before Clintons administration, but are included here because of other information dealing with criminal activity in the South [link to www.sunherald.com]
Rep Larkin Smith - died in airplane accident, was previously a Dixie Mafia target
Pauline Pusser - killed in an ambush (Buford Pussers wife)
Harry Bennett shot
L.B. Kelly shot
Ellwood T. Steube shot
George Fuqua shot
Doris Ann Willingham Grooms shot
Deputy Sheriff E.R. "Buddy" Walthers - shot when he went to question a Dixie Mafia member
Gary Elbert McDaniel shot
Margie George victim, hatchet and shot
Carl Douglas "Towhead" White shot
Bobby Gale Gwinn shot
Donald Lester "Jimmy" James shot
Jack Howard Joy - shot in the chest, soaked and set on fire
Winston Fairley dismembered
George Albert McGann shot
Jerry Michael Meshell shot
Clifford Hugh Fuller - shot
Johnson, Tracy shot
William Mulvey shot
Stephen Jeffrey Lee shot
Dewey D´Angelo - shot
James Whitake (Mena airplane mechanic)
James Avant (helicopter crash, Deputy Sherrif Pulaski County)
Kevin Brosch (helicopter crash, Criminal Investigator)
NATURAL
Jim McDougal, Heart Attack in Solitary (Witness in Whitewater)
John Crawford (Informant Inslaw, Heart Attack)
Susie Deer (Clinton´s mother´s patient)
Laura Lee Slayton (Clinton´s mother´s patient)
Victims of HIV contaminated blood taken from Arkansas prisoners and sold to Canada and perhaps elsewhere
Stanley Huggins (Partner, lawfirm investigating Madison Guarantee) pneumonia
John Hillyer (NBC cameraman, Mena information) heart attack
Ricky Ray Rector (Arkansas prisoner mentally ill) execution
M Franklin Squires (Sematech, heart attack)
Carlos Ghigliotti (FLIR, heart attack)
Eddie Pack (McNulty investigator, burst of microwave energy causing cancer)
Sheriff Jack Harwell (Waco, heart attack)
UNKNOWN
Barbara Wise (ITA John Huang Associate found dead, nude, in a locked office at Commerce)
Paul Tulley (Democratic National Committee, in Hotel Room)
Boonie Bearden? Disappeared (Ives/Henry Witness)
Paul Wilcher (Mena Investigator)
Henry Hamilton (Bag man for payments from McDougal to Gov. Clinton)
Gary Baugh (Lassater Attorney, alleged jump disputed)
Ray Walsh (briefed on wildfires, died in sleep)
Ron Miller
Kearn A Cottingham (Loral employee)
FOIA officer
ACCIDENTS
Ron Brown, Plane Crash (Commerce, Pathologists question wound to head on xrays) see section on Ron Brown Plane Crash
Victor Raisner, Plane Crash (National Finance Co-Chair Clinton for President)
R. Montgomery Raiser, Plane Crash (Clinton campaign)
Herschell Friday, Plane Crash (Presidential Campaign Finance Committee)
Paula Gober, Car Accident (Clinton Speech Interpreter)
Stanley Heard, Plane Crash (Clinton Health Care Advisory Committee)
Steven Dickson, Plane Crash (Clinton Health Care Advisory Committee)
Johnny Lawhon, Car Accident (Found Whitewater Canceled Check in Car after Tornado)
Theodore Williams, Betty Currie´s brother, Beaten before Betty´s Senate testimony then Car/Pedestrian Accident during Monica story(Key Witness´ brother)
Shelley Kelly, Survived Brown Plane Crash - died hours later (Stewardess)
Judy Gibbs, Fire (Alleged Clinton Girlfriend, Witness)
Keith Coney, Motorcycle Accident (Ives/Henry Witness)
Dr Donald Chumley, Plane Crash (Physician at the OKC Murrah building)
Jim Wilhite, Ski Accident (Friend of McLarty)
Dr. Ronald Rogers, Plane Crash (Informant)
Paul Olson, Plane Crash (Witness)
Neal Cooper Moody, Car Accident (Step Son of Vince Foster Widow, Lisa)
William Colby, canoe drowning (former Director of the CIA, editor of "Strategic Investment" which hired experts to investigate Vince Foster´s suicide note)
Randall Tyson, choked on a cookie (half brother to Don Tyson)
Woody Lemons, wife and mother, private airplane crash (OKC informant)
Mohammed Samir Ferrat, TWA 800 Plane Crash (Brown connections, initial suspect) see Ron Brown Plane Crash section
Jan Kopold, accidental fall in Turkey in 1970
Dan Dutko (Head Injuries, Bike accident) DNC Fund Raiser
David Drye, Plane Crash (friend of Matrisciana Clintons Chronicles, etc.)
Lt Colonel Mark Cwick (auto accident, Clinton pilot)
Major Marc Hohle (helicopter crash Okinawa, Clinton pilot)
Eddie Pack (Waco research, microwave exposure)
Reverend Roger Howard (Waco research, automobile)
Manual Howard (Waco research, automobile)
James Ray Dobbins (Waco research, automobile)
Admiral Donald Engen (Accident investigations, glider crash)
Rep Larkin (see Dixie Mafia section)
Reverend Roger Howard (McNulty investigator, auto hit and struck by car w/2 men)
Manual Howard (McNulty investigator, Reverend Roger Howards son, same accident)
James Ray Dobbins (McNulty investigator, same accident)
Ralph Baker (Arkansas, automobile)
Lt Gen McCloud (air accident)
Robert Deas(auto accident, scientist/informant)
LINE OF DUTY
Steve Willis, Waco (Clinton bodyguard)
Robert Williams, Waco (Clinton bodyguard)
Conway LeBleu, Waco (Clinton bodyguard)
Todd McKeehan, Waco (Clinton bodyguard)
Lieutenant Colonel Carmine Calo, Italian UN official killed in Afghanistan bombing
David Gibbs, Kosovo Apache Helicopter
Kevin Reichert, Kosovo Apache Helicopter
12 Crewmen from two HH-60 Pave Hawks, Nev
Spec. Anthony W. Brown, 29 - Ft Campbell Black Hawk 4/99
Pfc. Earl C. Eoff, 29 - Ft Campbell Black Hawk 4/99
Sgt. Robert G. Millward, 32 - Ft Campbell Black Hawk 4/99
Spec. James R. Murphy Jr., 25 - Ft Campbell Black Hawk 4/99
Chief Warrant Officer 2 Aaron K. Power, 30 - Ft Campbell Black Hawk 4/99
Spec. Fury J. Rice, 21 - Ft Campbell Black Hawk 4/99
Sgt. Julius R. Wilkes Jr., 23. - Ft Campbell Black Hawk 4/99
4 crew members 1996 Sikorsky military helicopter crash
Pilot and 8 Department of Interior Employees
10 crewmen plus passengers - 11/22/96 King-56 Crash
Staff Sgt. Brian Haney, Helicopter Crash (Clinton Bodyguard)
Marine Sgt. Timothy Sabel, Helicopter Crash (Clinton Bodyguard)
Maj. William Barkley, Helicopter Crash (Clinton Bodyguard)
Capt. Scott Reynolds, Helicopter Crash (Clinton Bodyguard)
Aldo Franscoia Secret Service Agent , C-130 airplane crash, Jackson Hole WY
Capt. Kevin N. Earnest, aircraft commander, C-130 airplane crash, Jackson Hole WY
Capt. Kimberly Jo Wielhouwer, pilot, C-130 airplane crash, Jackson Hole WY
2d Lt. Benjamin T. Hall, navigator, C-130 airplane crash, Jackson Hole WY
SSgt. Michael J. Smith, Jr., loadmaster, C-130 airplane crash, Jackson Hole WY
SrA. Rick L. Merritt, flight engineer, C-130 airplane crash, Jackson Hole WY
SSgt. Michael R. York, loadmaster, C-130 airplane crash, Jackson Hole WY
SrA. Billy R. Ogston, crew chief, C-130 airplane crash, Jackson Hole WY
Amn. Thomas A. Stevens, loadmaster, C-130 airplane crash, Jackson Hole WY
Maj. Gen. William Robertson Deputy Commanding General, V Corps, Europe, helicopter crash, Weisbaden
Col William Densberger V Corps Chief of Operations and Plans, helicopter crash, Weisbaden
Col. Robert Kelly V Corps Chief of Intelligence, helicopter crash, Weisbaden
Spec. Gary Rhodes Crew Chief, helicopter crash, Weisbaden
Capt Jennifer J Odom, US Army - Colombia
Capt Jose A Santiago Colombia
Chief Warrant Office Thomas G Moore Colombia
Specialist T Bruce Cluff Colombia
Specialist Ray Krueger Colombia
Lt Cmdr Jon A Rystrom Hawkeye Crash
Lt William R Dyer Hawkeye Crash
Lt Robert A Forwalder Hawkeye Crash
Lt Patrick Ardaiz Hawkeye Crash
Lt John A Messier Hawkeye Crash
FBI Special Agent Martha Dixon Martinez
FBI Special Agent Michael John Miller
OTHER MILITARY
David Gibbs - Apache Helicopter in Kosovo Conflict
Kevin Reichert Apache Helicopter in Kosovo Conflict
12 crewmen - two HH-60 Pave Hawks from Nellis Air Force Base, Nev
11 soldiers 101st Aviation, 7 from 6th Battalion and 4 member flight crew from the 5th
4 crew members 1996 Sikorsky military helicopter crash
Pilot and 8 Department of Interior Employees
10 crewmen plus passengers - 11/22/96 King-56 Crash
Jennifer Odom, Colombia plane crash
2 US Navy aircraft crewmembers S-3B Viking crashed into Gulf
8 in Alabama
2 in Navy training
SOMALIA HEROS US Army Rangers and Delta Commandos
SFC RANDALL SHUGHART
CW4 CLIFFTON WOLCOTT
SPC JAMES SMITH B Company 3rd Battalion 75th Ranger Regiment
SGT JAMES JOYCE B Company 3rd Battalin 75th Ranger Regiment
PFC JAMES MARTIN, JR
SPC DOMINICK PILLA B Company 3rd Battalin 75th Ranger Regiment
PFC RICHARD KOWALEWSKI, JR. B Company 3rd Battalion 75th Ranger Regiment
MSGT TIMOTHY MARTIN
SGT LORENZO RUIZ B Company 3rd Battalion 75th Ranger Regiment
CW4 RAYMOND FRANK
SGT CORNELL HOUSTON
MSGT GARY GORDON
CW2 DONOVAN BRILEY
CPL JAMES CAVACO B Company 3rd Battalion 75th Ranger Regiment
SGT THOMAS FIELD
SSGT DANIEL BUSCH
SSGT WILLIAM CLEVELAND, JR.
SFC EARL FILLMORE, JR.
EMBASSY BOMBINGS
Marine Sgt. Jesse Aliganga, 21, Tallahassee, Fl
Consul General Julian Bartley, 55, Jacksonville, FL
Jay Bartley, 20, son of the Consul General
Jean Dalizu, 60, Washington DC
Molly Huckaby Hardy, 51, Valdosta GA
Army Sgt. Kenneth Hobson II 27, Lama MO
Prabbi Guptara Kavaler, 45, McLean VA
Arlene Kirk, 50, South Bend, Ind
Mary Louise Martin, 45, Atlanta GA
Ann Michelle O´Connor, 36, Baton Rouge LA
Air Force Senior Master Sgt. Sherry Lynn Olds, 40, Panama City, FL
Uttamlal Shah, 38, Vienna VA
RON BROWN PLANE CRASH
Ron Brown, U.S. commerce secretary
Duane Christian, Brown´s security officer
Adam Darling, Brown´s confidential assistant
Gail Dobert, deputy director for the Office of Business Liaison
Carol Hamilton, Brown´s press secretary
Kathryn Hoffman, Brown´s senior advisor for strategic scheduling and special initiatives
Steve Kaminski, commercial counselor for U.S. and foreign commercial services
Kathy Kellogg, confidential assistant in the Office of Business Liaison
Charles Meissner, assistant secretary of commerce for international trade
William Morton, deputy assistant secretary for international economic development
Lawrence Payne, special assistant for U.S. and foreign commercial service
Naomi Warbasse, international trade specialist
Barry L. Conrad, chairman and CEO of Barrington Group, Miami, Florida
Paul Cushman III, chairman and CEO of Riggs International Banking Corp., Washington, D.C.
Robert E. Donovan, president and CEO of ABB Inc., Norwalk, Connecticut
Claudio Elia, chairman and CEO of Air & Water Technologies Corp., Somerville, New Jersey
David Ford, president and CEO of InterGuard Corp. of Guardian International, Auburn Hills, Michigan
Frank Maier, president of Enserch International Ltd., Dallas, Texas
Walter Murphy, senior vice president of AT&T Submarine Systems Inc., Morristown, New Jersey
Leonard Pieroni, chairman and CEO of Parsons Corp., Pasadena, California
John A. Scoville, chairman of Harza Engineering Co., Chicago
Donald Terner, president of Bridge Housing Corp., San Francisco, California
Stuart Tholan, president of Bechtel-Europe/Africa/Middle East/Southwest Asia, San Francisco, California
Robert A. Whittaker, chairman and CEO of Foster Wheeler Energy International, Clinton, New Jersey
Captain. Ashley Davis, pilot
Captain Tim Schafer, pilot
Staff Sergeant Gerald Aldrich, flight mechanic
Staff Sergeant Robert Farrington Jr., steward
Sergeant Cheryl Turnege, steward
Sergeant Shelly Kelly, steward
Jim Lewek, a Central Intelligence Agency analyst
Lee Jackson of the Treasury Department
Nathaniel Nash, The New York Times´ Frankfurt bureau chief.
Dragica Lendic Bebek, an interpreter
Niksa Antonini, a photographer.
OKLAHOMA CITY (168+19 TOTAL)
Aleman, Lucio Jr., 33, Oklahoma City.
Alexander, Teresa, 33, Oklahoma City.
Allen, Richard A., 46, Oklahoma City.
Allen, Ted L., 48, Norman.
Almon, Baylee, 1, Oklahoma City.
Althouse, Diane E. Hollingsworth, 45, Edmond.
Anderson, Rebecca, 37, Midwest City.
Argo, Pamela, 36, Oklahoma City.
Avery, Saundra "Sandy", 34, Midwest City.
Avillanoza, Peter, 56, Oklahoma City.
Battle, Calvin, 62, Oklahoma City.
Battle, Peola, 56, Oklahoma City.
Bell, Danielle, 15 months, Oklahoma City.
Biddy, Oleta, 54, Tuttle.
Bland, Shelly Turner, 25, Tuttle.
Blanton, Andrea, 33, Oklahoma City.
Bloomer, Olen B., 61, Moore.
Bolden, Army Sgt. 1st Class Lola Rene, 40, Birmingham, Ala.
Boles, James E., 50, Oklahoma City.
Bolte, Mark A., 28, Oklahoma City.
Booker, Casandra, 25, Oklahoma City.
Bowers, Carol, 53, Yukon.
Bradley, Peachlyn, 3, Oklahoma City.
Brady, Woodrow, 41, Oklahoma City.
Brown, Cynthia Campbell, 26, Oklahoma City.
Broxterman, Paul G., 42, Edmond.
Bruce, Gabreon, 3 months, Oklahoma City.
Burgess, Kimberly Ruth, 29, Oklahoma City.
Burkett, David N., 47, Oklahoma City.
Burns, Donald E., 63, Oklahoma City.
Carr, Karen Gist, 32, Midwest City.
Carrillo, Michael J., 44, Oklahoma City.
Chafey, Rona, 35, Oklahoma City.
Chavez, Zackary, 3, Oklahoma City.
Sharon Chesnut, 47, Oklahoma City.
Chipman, Robert, 51, Edmond.
Clark, Kimberly K., 39, Oklahoma City.
Clark, Margaret L. "Peggy", 42, Chickasha.
Cooper, Antonio A. Jr., 6 months, Midwest City.
Cooper, Anthony Christopher II, 2, Moore.
Cooper, Dana L. Brown, 24, Moore.
Cottingham, Harley, 46, Oklahoma City.
Cousins, Kim R., 33, Midwest City.
Coverdale, Aaron, 5 1/2, Oklahoma City.
Coverdale, Elijah, 2 1/2, Oklahoma City.
Coyne, Jaci, 14 months, Moore.
Cregan, Katherine, 60, Oklahoma City
Cummins, Richard, 55, Mustang.
Curry, Steven, 44, Norman.
Daniels, Brenda, 42, Oklahoma City.
Davis, Sgt. Benjamin L., 29, Edmond.
Day, Diana Lynn, 38, Oklahoma City.
DeMaster, Peter, 44, Oklahoma City.
Deveroux, Castine, 49, Oklahoma City.
Driver, Sheila, 28, Oklahoma City.
Eaves, Tylor, 8 months, Midwest City.
Eckles, Ashley, 4, Guthrie.
Ferrell, Susan, 37, Oklahoma City.
Fields, Carrol "Chip," 48, Guthrie.
Finley, Katherine Ann, 44, Yukon.
Fisher, Judy J., 45, Oklahoma City.
Florence, Linda, 43, Oklahoma City.
Fritzler, Donald, 64, Oklahoma City.
Fritzler, Mary Anne, 57, Oklahoma City.
Garrett, Tevin, 16 months, Midwest City.
Garrison, Laura Jane, 61, Oklahoma City.
Genzer, Jamie, 32, Wellston.
Goodson, Margaret, 54, Oklahoma City.
Gottshall, Kevin Lee, 6 months, Norman.
Griffin, Ethel Louise, 55, Edmond.
Guiles, Colleen, 59, Oklahoma City.
Guzman, Marine Capt. Randolph, 28, Castro Valley, Calif..
Hagerman, Crystal, 20, Dallas, Texas
Hammons, Cheryl, 44, Oklahoma City.
Harding, Ronald, 55, Oklahoma City.
Hawthorne, Thomas, 52, Choctaw.
Higginbottom, Doris Adele, 44, Oklahoma City.
Hightower, Anita C., 27, Oklahoma City.
Hodges, Thompson E. "Gene," 54, Norman.
Holland, Peggy Louise, 37, Oklahoma City.
Housley, Linda Coleen, 53, Oklahoma City.
Howard, George M., 45, Vallejo, Calif..
Howell, Wanda, 34, Spencer.
Huff, Robbin A., 37, Bethany.
Hurlburt, Anna Jean, 67, Oklahoma City.
Hurlburt, Charles, 73, Oklahoma City.
Ice, Paul D., 42, Midwest City.
Jenkins, Christi Y., 32, Edmond.
Johnson, Norma Jean, 62, Oklahoma City.
Johnson, Raymond L., 59, Oklahoma City.
Jones, Larry J., 46, Yukon.
Justes, Alvin, 54, Oklahoma City.
Kennedy, Blake R., 1 1/2, Amber.
Khalil, Carole, 50, Oklahoma City.
Koelsch, Valerie, 33, Oklahoma City.
Kreymborg, Carolyn A., 57, Oklahoma City.
Lauderdale, Teresa L., 41, Shawnee.
Leinen, Catherine, 47, Oklahoma City.
Lenz, Carrie, 26, Choctaw.
Leonard, Donald R., 50, Edmond.
Levy, Airman 1st Class Lakesha R., 21, Midwest City.
London, Dominique, 2, Oklahoma City.
Long, Rheta, 60, Oklahoma City.
Loudenslager, Michael, 48, Harrah.
Luster, Aurelia "Donna," 43, Guthrie.
Luster, Robert, 45, Guthrie.
Maroney, Mickey, 50, Oklahoma City.
Martin, James K., 34, Oklahoma City.
Martinez, Gilberto, 35, Oklahoma City.
Mathes-Worton, Tresia, 28, Oklahoma City.
McCarthy, James Anthony, 53, Edmond.
McCullough, Kenneth, 36, Edmond.
McGonnell, Betsy J. Beebe, 47, Norman.
McKinney, Linda G., 47, Oklahoma City.
McRaven, Airman 1st Class Cartney J. Koch, 19, Midwest City.
Medearis, Claude, 41, Norman.
Meek, Claudette, 43, Oklahoma City.
Merrell, Frankie Ann, 23, Oklahoma City.
Miller, Derwin, 27, Oklahoma City.
Mitchell, Eula Leigh, 64, Oklahoma City.
Moss, John C. III., 50, Oklahoma City.
Nix, Patricia, 47, Edmond.
Parker, Jerry Lee, 45, Norman.
Randolph, Jill, 27, Oklahoma City.
Reeder, Michelle Ann, 33, Oklahoma City.
Rees, Terry Smith 41, Midwest City.
Rentie, Mary Leasure, 39, Bethany.
Reyes, Antonio, 55, Edmond.
Ridley, Kathryn, 24, Oklahoma City.
Rigney, Trudy, 31, Midwest City.
Ritter, Claudine, 48, Oklahoma City.
Rosas, Christy, 22, Moore.
Sanders, Sonja, 27, Moore.
Scroggins, Lanny L., 46, Yukon.
Seidl, Kathy L., 39, Bethel.
Sells, Leora L., 57, Oklahoma City.
Shepherd, Karan D., 27, Moore.
Smith, Chase, 3, Oklahoma City.
Smith, Colton, 2, Oklahoma City.
Sohn, Army Sgt. 1st Class Victoria, 36, Moore.
Stewart, John T., 51, Oklahoma City.
Stratton, Dolores M., 51, Moore.
Tapia, Emilio, 50, Oklahoma City.
Texter, Victoria, 37, Oklahoma City.
Thomas, Charlotte A., 43, Oklahoma City.
Thompson, Michael, 47, Yukon.
Thompson, Virginia, 56, El Reno.
Titsworth, Kayla M., 3 1/2, Lawton.
Tomlin, Ricky L., 46, Piedmont.
Treanor, LaRue, 55, Guthrie.
Treanor, Luther, 61, Guthrie.
Turner, Larry L., 42, Oklahoma City.
Valdez, Jules A., 51, Edmond.
VanEss, John K., 67, Chickasha.
Wade, Johnny A., 42, Edmond.
Walker, David J., 54, Edmond.
Walker, Robert N., 52, Oklahoma City.
Watkins, Wanda L., 49, Oklahoma City.
Weaver, Michael, 54, Edmond.
Welch, Julie, 23, Oklahoma City.
Westberry, Robert, 57, Oklahoma City.
Whicher, Alan, 40, Edmond. (only SS agent)
Whittenberg, Jo Ann, 35, Oklahoma City.
Williams, Frances A., 48, Oklahoma City.
Williams, Scott, 24, Tuttle.
Williams, William Stephen, 42, Cashion.
Wilson, Clarence, Sr., 49, Oklahoma.
Woodbridge, Ronota A., 31, Edmond.
Youngblood, John A., 52, Yukon.
WACO (86 TOTAL)
Michael Dean Schroeder.
Katherin Andrade, 24
Jennifer Andrade, 19
Aldrick Bennett, 35
Susan Benta, 31
Mary Jean Borst, 49
Pablo Cohen, 38
Yvette Fagan, 34
Doris Fagan, 60
Lisa Marie Farris, 26
Ray Friesen, 76
Dayland Gent, 3
Diana Henry, 28
Paulina Henry, 24
Phillip Henry, 22
Stephen Henry, 26
Vanessa Henry, 19
Zilla Henry, 55
Novellette Hipsman, 36
Peter Hipsman, 27
Floyd Houtman, 61
Cyrus Howell, 8
Rachel Howell, 23
Star Howell, 6
Sherri Lynn Jewell, 43
David Michael Jones, 38
Michelle Jones, 18
Serenity Sea Jones, 4
Bobbie Lane Koresh, 16 months
David Koresh, 33
Jeffery Little, 31
Nicole Elizabeth Gent Little, 24
Livingston Malcolm, 26
Douglas Wayne Martin, 42
Lisa Martin, 13
Sheila Martin, 15
Abigail Martinez, 11
Audrey Martinez, 13
Juliete Santoyo Martinez, 30
Crystal Martinez, 3
Isiah Martinez, 4
Joseph Martinez, 30
Jillane Matthews
Alison Bernadette Monbelly, 31
Melissa Morrison, 6
Rosemary Morrison, 29
Sonia Murray, 29
Theresa Noberega, 48
James Riddle, 32
Rebecca Saipaia, 24
Judy Schneider, 41
Mayanah Schneider, 2
Steve Schneider, 48
Laraine B. Silva, 40
Floracita Sonobe, 34
Scott Kojiro Sonobe, 35
Aisha Gyarfas Summers, 17
Gregory Allen Summers, 28
Startle Summers, 1
Hollywood Sylvia
Lorraine Sylvia, 40
Rachel Sylvia, 13
Doris Vaega
Joanne Vaega, 4
Margarida Joanna Vaega, 47
Neal Vaega, 37
Martin Wayne, 20
Mark H. Wendell
RUBY RIDGE (3 TOTAL)
Note: the tragedy occurred before the Clinton administration but is included here because of the handling of the aftermath and its relation to the tragedy at Waco
Sam Weaver, 14
Vicki Weaver
William Degan, US Marshall
DEATHS TRAGEDY - Columbine High School
Cassie Bernall, 17
Steven Curnow, 14
Corey Depooter, 17
Kelly Fleming, 16
Matthew Ketcher, 16
Daniel Mauser, 15
Daniel Rohrbough, 15
William ``Dave´´ Sanders, 47 - Shot twice in chest while directing students down hallway to safety. Survived at least three hours until students were rescued.
Rachel Scott, 17
Isaiah Shoels, 18. Only black youth shot.
John Tomlin, 16
Lauren Townsend, 18
Kyle Velasquez
Dylan Klebold, 17 (perp)
Eric Harris, 18 (perp)
WEDGEWOOD BAPTIST CHURCH
Kristi Beckel, 14
Shawn C. Brown, 23
Sydney R. Browning, 36
Joseph D. Ennis, 14
Cassandra Griffin, 14
Susan Kimberly Jones, 23
Justin M. Ray, 17
Larry Ashbrook, 47 (perp)
Alaskan Airlines
Freeper LarryLied "Perhaps it is too far afield, but it appears the Alaskan Airlines flight which went down several weeks ago was caused by a defective screw jack made in Communist China
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[link to 64.14.130.248]
Baldridge/Larry Jr., Novato, CA
Bermudez/Renato, San Francisco, CA
Bernard/Michael, Seattle, WA
Branson/Malcolm, Ketchikan, AK
Bryant/William, San Francisco, CA
Busche/Ryan, Seattle, WA
Busche/Abigail, Seattle, WA
Chavez/Gabriela, Puerto Vallarta, Mexico (Mexican National)
Choate/Jacquelyn, Santa Cruz, CA
Choate/Toni, San Francisco, CA
Christensen/Sheri, Federal Way, WA
Clemetson/Carolyn and infant son Spencer, Seattle, WA
Clemetson/David, Seattle, WA
Clemetson/Blake, Seattle, WA
Clemetson/Miles, Seattle,WA
Clemetson/Coriander, Seattle, WA
Cuthbertson/John, Danville, CA (British)
Deo/Avinesh, Seattle, WA
Donaldson/Monte, Seattle, WA
Forshee/Dean, Benicia, CA
Fosmire/Jerri, Eugene, OR
Friedmann/Allen, Round Lake Beach, IL
Gandesbery/Jean, Davis, CA
Gandesbery/Robert, Davis, CA
Hall/Meghann, Enumclaw, WA
Han/Aloysius, Oakland, CA
Hatleberg/Barbara, Eugene, OR
Hatleberg/Glenn, Eugene, OR
Hovey/Robert, San Francisco, CA
Ing/Russell, Seattle, WA
Janosik/Rachel, Bellevue, WA
Karlsson/Karl, Petaluma, CA
Karlsson/Carol, Petaluma, CA
Knight/Joseph, Monroe, WA
Knight/Linda, Monroe, WA
Knudson/William, Sacramento, CA
Laigo/Rodrigo, Fairfield, CA
Laigo/Naomi, Fairfield, CA
Long/Bradley, Sacramento, CA
Luque/James, San Francisco, CA
Marquez/Juan, San Francisco, CA
Ost/Ileana and infant daughter Emily, San Bruno, CA
Ost/Bob, San Bruno, CA
Oti/Cynthia, Oakland, CA
Pearson/Sarah and infant daughter Grace, Seattle, WA
Pearson/Rodney, Seattle, WA
Pearson/Rachel, Seattle, WA
Penna/Deborah, Seattle, WA
Permison/Jean, Scotts Valley, CA
Poll/Stanford, Mercer Island, WA
Prasad/Anjesh, Burien, WA
Prasad/Avinesh, Burien, WA
Pulanco "Clarke"/Paul, Seattle, WA
Russell/Charles, Hayward, CA
Ryan/Barbara, Redmond, WA
Ryan/Bradford, Redmond, WA
Ryan/James, Redmond, WA
Ryan/Terry, Redmond, WA
Salyer/Ellen, Sebastopol, CA
Schuyler/Stacy, Federal Way, WA
Shaw/Donald, Shelton, WA
Sipe/Charlene, Brier, WA
Smith/Joan, Belmont, CA
Sparks/Ryan, Enumclaw, WA
Stasinos/Harry, Brier, WA
Stockley/Thomas, Seattle, WA
Stockley/Margaret, Seattle, WA
Stokes/Janice, Ketchikan, AK
Thompson/Morrie, Fairbanks, AK
Thompson/Thelma, Fairbanks, AK
Thompson/Sheryl, Valdez, AK
Thorgrimson/Robert, Poulsbo, WA
Thorgrimson/Lorna, Poulsbo, WA
Voronoff/Nina, San Francisco, CA
Whorley/Colleen, Seattle, WA
Wilkie/Steve, San Francisco, CA
Williams/Bob, Poulsbo, WA
Williams/Patty, Poulsbo, WA
TWA800
Passengers:
Aikey, Jessica
Allen, L. (2)
Alex, Christian
Alexander, Matthew, Florence, S.C.
Amlund, Svein
Anderson, Jay, 49, Larson Woods, Mo.
Anderson, Patricia, 42, Larson Woods, Mo.
Anderson, Seana, St. Louis
Babb, David, 13, Volant, Penn.
Baszczewski, Daniel
Beatty, Charles
Becker, Michelle, St. Petersburg, Fla.
Bellazoug, Miriam, 30, New York
Benjamin, Arthur, Philadelphia
Benjamin, Joan, Philadelphia
Berthe, Line
Berthe, Maurice
Bluestone, Nicolas, Pound Ridge, N.Y.
Bohlin, Michelle
Bossuyt, Luc
Bouhs, Leonie
Bower, Jordan
Breistroff, Michel
Brooks, Edwin, 81, Edgarton, Mass.
Brooks, Ruth, 79, Edgertown, Mass.
Bottaroni, Mirko, Fano, Italy
Caillaud, Daniel
Caillaud, Anthony
Carven, Paula, Bel Air, Md.
Carven, Jay, 9, Bel Air, Md.
Cayrol, Jacques
Chaillou, Jenny
Chanson, Ludovic, 12, Garancieres, France
Chemtob, Monique
Coiner, Constance, 48, Binghamton, N.Y.
Cox, Monica
Darley, Francois
Deboisredon, Cybele, Bordeaux, France
Delange, Sylvain
Delouvrier, Judith
Dhuimieres, Dominques
Dickey, Deborah, Montoursville, Penn.
Dickey, Douglas, Montoursville, Penn.
D´Lorio-Baily, Christine, Prato, Italy
D´Lorio, Pietro, Prato, Italy
Duarte-Coiner, Ana, Binghamton, N.Y.
DuPont, Guy
Dwyer, Larkyn
Ellison, Marie
Ersoz, Clara
Ersoz, Namik
Estival, Alexandre
Feeney, Deidre
Feeney, Vera
Ferrat, MR
Foster, Rod
Fouldon, Didier
Fry, Carol
Furlano, Rosaria
Gabor, Daniel, 27, Fayetteville, Ark. and Walnut Creek, Calif.
Gaetke, Daniel, Kansas City
Gaetke, Stephanie, Kansas City
Gallagher, Claire
Galland, Jean Paul
Gasq, C. (2)
Gough, Ana
Gough, Donald
Graham, Steven, 38, Naples, Calif.
Gray, Hank, 47, Memphis
Greene, Renee
Griffith, Donna
Grimm, Julia
Grivet, Cyril, Menio Park, Calif.
Gustin, Anne
Hammer, Beverly, Long Island, N.Y.
Hammer, Traci, Long Island, N.Y.
Hansen, Lars Groenbakken
Harris, Lawrence
Haurani, G., Grouse Point Shores, Mich.
Haurani, N., Grouse Point Shores, Mich.
Hazelton, Sandra
Hettler, Rance
Hill, Susan
Hochard, Jean Pierre
Hogan, David
Holst, Virginia
Holst, Eric
Hurd, J.
Jacquenot, Benoit
Jensen, Susanne
Johns, Courtneye, Clarkston, Mich.
Johnson, Jed, New York
Johnson, Leonard, Springfield, Va.
Johnson, Eleanor, Springfield, Va.
Jones, Romana
Karschner, Amanda
Krikhan, Margot
Krukar, Andrew, 40
Kwiat, Patricia
Kwiat, Kimberly
Labys, Jane, Morgantown, W.Va.
Lacailledesse, Antoine
Laforge, Alain
Lamour, Yvon
Lohan, Britta
Loudenslager, Jody, Montoursville, Penn.
Lucien, Dalila, 17
Loo, Patricia
Lychner, Pam
Lychner, Shannon
Lychner, Katie
Manchuelle, Francois
Maresq, Etienne
Maresq, Nicolas
Martin, Betty Ruth, Belleville, Ill.
Mazzola, Salvator, Palermo, Italy
Mercurio, Giuseppe, Palo del Colle, Italy
Merieux, Rodolphe
Meshulam, Avishaim
Miller, Elizabeth
Miller, Robert
Miller, Joan, Fairfield, Conn.
Miller, Amy, Andreas, Penn.
Miller, Kyle, Andreas, Penn.
Michel, Pascal
Murta, Angela, New York
Nelson, A. (2)
Nibert, Cheryl
Notes, Gadi
O´Hara, Caitlin, Irvington, N.Y.
O´Hara, Janet, Irvington, N.Y.
O´Hara, John, Irvington, N.Y.
Olsen, Rebecca, St. Petersberg, Fla.
Omiccioli, Monica, Fano, Italy
Orman, Alan
Ostachiewicz, Elsie (2)
Paquet, Ingrid
Paquet, Huguette
Pares, Serge
Penzer, Judy
Percy, Marion, Tuckahoe, N.Y.
Price, Peggy, Englewood, Colo.
Price, Dennis, Englewood, Colo.
Privette, Brenda, Stevenson, Ala.
Puhlmann, Rico
Puichaud, Elizabeth, Paris
Remy, Jacqueline
Rhein, Kirk
Rhoads, S.
Richey, Brent
Richter, Annelyse
Richter, Noemie
Rio, Celine
Rogers, Kimberly
Rojany, Yon, Studio City, Calif.
Romangna, Barbara
Rose, Katrina
Rupert, Judith
Scott, Barbara, Stevenson, Ala.
Scott, Joseph, Stevenson, Ala.
Scott, Michael, Stevenson, Ala.
Siebert, Brenna, Jefferson City, Mo.
Siebert, Chrisha, Jefferson City, Mo.
Shorter, Anamaria
Silverman, Candace, Los Angeles
Silverman, Etta, Los Angeles
Silverman, Gene, Los Angeles
Silverman, Jamie, Los Angeles
Skjold, Miss K.
Story, Bill
Straus, Carine
Teang, Lydie
Teang, Rachana
Thierty, Josette
Tofani, Mauro, Prato, Italy
Uzupis, Larissa
Vanepps, Lois
Watson, Jacquelin
Watson, Jill
Weaver, Monica
Weatherby, Thomas, Jefferson City, Mo.
Windmiller, Ruben
Wolfson, Eleanor
Wolfson, Wendy
Wolters, Bonnie, Brooklyn, N.Y.
Yee, Judith, New York
Zara, Jean
Operating Cockpit Crew:
Capt. Steven E. Snyder, 57, Stratford, Conn.
Capt. Ralph G. Kevorkian, 58, Garden Grove, Calif.
Flight Engineer Richard G. Campbell, 63, Ridgefield, Conn.
Flight Engineer Oliver Krick, 25, Lake St. Louis, Mo.
Deadheading Crew:
Capt. Gid Miller, 57, Sarasota, Fla.
First Officer R.L. Verhaeghe, 48, Goldsboro, N.C.
Flight Engineer D.A. Eshleman, 35, Aurora, Colo.
Operating Flight Attendants:
Charbonnier, Jacque, 66, Huntington Station, N.Y.
Callas, Dan, 22, Philadelphia
Charbonnier, Constance, 49, Huntington Station, N.Y.
Christopher, Janet, 48, Stamford Heights, Penn.
DiLuccio, Deb
Lang, Ray, 51, North Massapequa, N.Y.
Lockhart, Maureen, 49, Kansas City
Meade, Sandra, 42, Camano Island, Wash.
Melotin, Grace, 48, Coronna, N.Y.
Rhoads, Marit, 48, Belleville, Wash.
Schuldt, Mike, 51, Safety Harbor, Fla.
Torche, Melinda, 47, Irvine, Calif.
Ziemkiewiicz, Jill, 24, Rutherford, N.J.