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To: posterchild

But the child will have a father...The question is whether or not to allow a total stranger to have contact with it, and possibly be able to interfere in it's upbringing.
What if the sperm donor is a hard-core moonbat of some kind?
But then, the same thing could be said from the donor's point of view. What a wierd situation.


7 posted on 09/22/2006 9:09:41 AM PDT by LongElegantLegs (You can do that, and be a whack-job pedophile on meth.)
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To: LongElegantLegs
What does the word "father" mean?

I'd suggest that the child's father is the person who provided the sperm. There are good fathers and bad fathers. Some men who provide sperm are bad fathers, some very bad indeed. But it is kind of loose or poetic to say they are not fathers, and it confuses conversation.THe child may have a step father, an adoptive father, a father in the eyes of the law, and any of those "fathers" may not be the father who provided the sperm. But since when is law a canon of reality?

It sounds lovely to talk about the man who takes up the responsibility of interacting with, providing for, guiding, sometimes tolerating a child as being a "real" father. But doing so creates problems. For example. A man begets a child on his wife, has a very large insurance policy with the future child as beneficiary, very much wants to be a father and husband, and a piano falls on him. He's not there for the mother and child, so he's not the father, some would say. So does that mean the child is not his child and therefore does not get the payout of the policy? Of course not?

Then "Father" is going to end up meaning different tings in different ssituations.

The child, I think, has a father. The Mom, the child, OHSU, of the courts may decide that the father is not allowed to do major parts of the job of fathering.

I'm babbling, maybe, but this comes down to unnatural gnosticism, where the notion of the "real" father is divorced from the notion of the "natural" father. I don't think it's good discourse or good thinking.

22 posted on 09/22/2006 10:07:05 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Reality is not optional.)
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To: LongElegantLegs

"What if the sperm donor is a hard-core moonbat of some kind?"

Then the hospital should not have donated the sperm.

Now the father has the right to see that this child is raised as he sees fit irrispective of his background.


32 posted on 09/22/2006 12:28:33 PM PDT by stultorum (In hoc signo vincet.)
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