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American Jews wrestle with whether to suggest non-Jewish spouses convert
Boston Herald ^ | 09/21/2006 | Associated Press

Posted on 09/21/2006 4:15:01 PM PDT by Nachum

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To: familyop

Non-Jews become Jews essentially the same way the first Jews became Jews.

Aside from exclusive allegiance to the Jewish people, EXODUS records that they were circumcised, offered sacrifices, and immersed in a mikveh ('sanctified').

Even though converts can not now offer sacrifices, they are obliged to do so once the Temple is rebuilt.


81 posted on 09/21/2006 8:19:48 PM PDT by hlmencken3 (Originalist on the the 'general welfare' clause? No? NOT an originalist!)
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To: Brilliant

Jews don't believe that non-Jews go to hell.


82 posted on 09/21/2006 8:28:55 PM PDT by Melas (Offending stupid people since 1963)
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To: Alouette
This guy dumped his Jewish wife (and 4 kids) for a hot shiksa, whom he converted, of course.

kosher pork?

84 posted on 09/21/2006 10:25:05 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: hlmencken3
"Non-Jews become Jews essentially the same way the first Jews became Jews.

Aside from exclusive allegiance to the Jewish people, EXODUS records that they were circumcised, offered sacrifices, and immersed in a mikveh ('sanctified').

Even though converts can not now offer sacrifices, they are obliged to do so once the Temple is rebuilt.
"

As far as I know, those words are the greatest charity that I've received during this special time. Thank you. Have a beautiful early morning and a peaceful, joyful tomorrow evening.
86 posted on 09/21/2006 11:29:44 PM PDT by familyop
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To: Brilliant
Deuteronomy 4:19 & Malachi 1:11.

"If I knew God I'd be Him."

87 posted on 09/22/2006 10:22:08 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Dog Gone
That's the problem with major religions. They each preach that all the others will go to hell. It's not a big leap to the position that you might as well kill those unbelievers right now. It even happens within the major religions. Shi'ite vs Sunni, Catholic vs Protestant.

Your last example is absolutely wrong. Protestants don't think Catholics will go to hell and vice versa.

88 posted on 09/22/2006 11:49:55 AM PDT by jmc813 (.)(.)
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To: kitkat
Not quite! While the Catholic church says that IF YOU BELIEVE IT TO BE THE TRUE church, but do not embrace it, you will be lost, it also says that you must follow your conscience. We all start from different points and have different influences in our lives.

Which is heresy: "Jesus answered, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6 (emphasis mine)

89 posted on 09/22/2006 1:06:57 PM PDT by Señor Zorro ("The ability to speak does not make you intelligent"--Qui-Gon Jinn)
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To: Dog Gone
That's the problem with major religions. They each preach that all the others will go to hell.

Is it a problem if it is accurate? The way you talk, it sounds like religions are just commodities to be picked off a shelf for their pure aesthetic value.

90 posted on 09/22/2006 1:19:59 PM PDT by Señor Zorro ("The ability to speak does not make you intelligent"--Qui-Gon Jinn)
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To: Señor Zorro

Yes, it's a problem, because they can't all be correct or accurate. And when you have large groups of people who think their way is the only way it tends to lead to conflict with opposing groups who also feel religious superiority.

It's started a lot of wars in the history of the world beginning from biblical times to the present day.


91 posted on 09/22/2006 2:22:30 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: jmc813

Sorry, but some do. I provided examples on the thread.


92 posted on 09/22/2006 2:23:07 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: two134711

Yes we do.

my Rabbi has 5 children and over 54 grandchildren (with room for a few more to come)

my wife comes from a fairly modern orthodox family (her mother has 4 siblings and her father 2--my wife has over 30 first cousins and 1 more is on the way)


93 posted on 09/24/2006 12:15:33 PM PDT by Jaysin
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To: radiohead

My ex is Catholic; our son is raised Jewish - but he knows a lot about Catholicism - he prefers Judaism. I know Christians who converted to Judaism when they married Jews - but they claim that eventually they would have converted; the marriage gave them the push to do it. If it is not sincere, you should not do it.


94 posted on 10/01/2006 4:25:59 PM PDT by Dodgers fan
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To: Celtjew Libertarian

I hear similar stories - people who converted to Judaism because of marriage but apparently were interested in the religion before they married. I also hear of Jews who convert out and then return later on.


95 posted on 10/01/2006 4:27:19 PM PDT by Dodgers fan
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To: ConservativeMind

This is obvious to a Christian. But I've heard that Mormons are not frowned upon for marrying outside their faith. It's seen as an outreach. Most Jews see "Jewishness" as their nationality. They think such a saying as "Jews for Jesus" is impossible and ridiculous.


96 posted on 10/01/2006 4:29:48 PM PDT by ruthles (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean people aren't out to get you.)
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To: thomaswest

My understanding is that there is an afterlife and that the mystics believe in a hell and even a purgatory but that you are not supposed to do good deeds "to get into heaven". You are not supposed to bargain with G-d to have a great after life. What is your knowledge of this? I was told that the idea that we do not believe in an afterlife is false; that we do; but that we do not emphasize it.


97 posted on 10/01/2006 4:32:49 PM PDT by Dodgers fan
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To: Dodgers fan
Belief in psychics, magnetic bracelets, unicorns or an afterlife do not mean that these actually exist or have unnatural powers.

It is quite possible that doing "good deeds" here in the only life we are sure of is its own reward.

98 posted on 10/01/2006 5:43:51 PM PDT by thomaswest (Just curious.)
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