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Thai general urges talks with Muslim insurgents (Gen Sondhi is 1st Muslim Head of Thai Army)
Financial Times ^ | September 1 2006 | By Amy Kazmin in Bangkok

Posted on 09/20/2006 3:54:59 AM PDT by excludethis

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To: Cold Heat

> I guess maybe I don't understand at all <

Boy, you can say that again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again. And again, ad infinitum.


221 posted on 09/20/2006 2:47:06 PM PDT by Hawthorn (As a little byrd once told me, I've seen a lot of white macacas in my time!)
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To: Paradox
Your words mean infinitely more to me than any agenda pushers here. There are many more lurkers here I am sure that appreciate your posts. Don't get discouraged!

Ok here is a Lurker that is coming out...lol
I really do appreciate the boots on the ground reporting much more than the msm. Killjoy, Keep up the good work and keep us informed if any new info comes out.
CD

222 posted on 09/20/2006 2:52:30 PM PDT by Coffee_drinker (The best defense is a strong preemptive strike..)
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To: matt1234

And how DID the Thai's manage to stay out of the Vietnam war? I never realized until just a few years ago just how smack dab in the middle of it all they are. And how does Laos manage to wrap all the way around Thailand? Seems like an untenable geopolitical subdivision.


223 posted on 09/20/2006 2:59:31 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Political Correctness is communist propaganda writ small.)
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To: ichabod1

> Thailand was aligned with the Axis in WWII. <

Yes and no:

They were occupied by the Japanese on December 8, 1941, and were told by the invaders to declare war on the US and her allies "or else."

So they declared war, in order that their country not be totally pillaged and raped by the invaders -- whose troops had committed unspeakable atrocities in China.

But the Thai Ambassador in Washington refused to deliver the formal Declaration of War to the US gov't. Never happened!

Things remained this way until Japan's surrender, at which point the Thai government rescinded the Declaration of War. So the USA never ruled or declared "officially" that Thailand was an enemy during the War. What's more, there were never any hostile engagments between US and Thai forces, naval or military.

Moreover, almost from "day one" after the Japanese takeover, there were friendly elements in the Thai government who provided a constant stream of intelligence to us and our allies.

Then in 1944, the OSS was able to parachute a number of agents into the Kingdom, many of whom were sheltered by friendlies in the Thai army and police, plus by Thai Christians in the tribal regions of the north.

Interesting enough, there's still a fair amount of anti-Japanese sentiment in Thailand as a result of the occupation. Even people who weren't alive during the War will repeat family stories about ill-treatment at the hands of the Imperial Army.

In any event, it's quite a fascinating story, which unfortunately is little known even by military history buffs in the USA.


224 posted on 09/20/2006 3:16:18 PM PDT by Hawthorn (As a little byrd once told me, I've seen a lot of white macacas in my time!)
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To: Hawthorn

I was being gentle.


225 posted on 09/20/2006 3:35:42 PM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE)
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To: jan in Colorado

You have FReepmail

;oP


226 posted on 09/20/2006 3:46:14 PM PDT by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: Hawthorn
The muslim terrorists kill innocents so morons, liberals and moderates, including naive muslim generals, will talk and negotiate.

APEASEMENT IS APPEASEMENT.

As I said:

When GOOD negotiates with EVIL, GOOD always looses.
227 posted on 09/20/2006 4:02:59 PM PDT by excludethis
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To: excludethis

I have following the violence in Thailand's south for years. There is much on it on LGF. When I want to search for stuff there, I type "LGF" and the word I'm searching for in Google's search engine, then I get threads from previous years. They have killed schoolgirls, shopkeepers, monks... A horrible problem, which the media doesn't care about since it can't be used to bash the US or Bush or Christians or Israel...


228 posted on 09/20/2006 4:08:51 PM PDT by PghBaldy (CNN on Castro - Intestinal Crisis 2006: A People Mourn.)
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To: PghBaldy

Here's a few links on the jihad in Thailand. 2 years+, with the media disinterested. http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=16326_Religion_of_Decapitation_in_Thailand&only

http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=16425_Another_Beheading_in_Thailand&only

http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=11347

http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=18791


229 posted on 09/20/2006 4:15:04 PM PDT by PghBaldy (CNN on Castro - Intestinal Crisis 2006: A People Mourn.)
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To: Convert from ECUSA; dervish; Fred Nerks
The appeal for talks with insurgents came a day after bombs in 22 banks across the province of Yala exploded almost simultaneously, killing a retired official, and injuring 28 people... Since the renewed flare-up in January 2004 of a decades-old separatist insurgency, Thaksin Shinawatra, the prime minister, has promised to shower the troubled region with money to accelerate economic growth...
Yeah, and I'm sure that'll work.
230 posted on 09/20/2006 4:29:16 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Saturday, September 16, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Hawthorn

"like about 2400 years under the current reigning dynasty!"

That would be "about 240", right? King Bhumipol Adulyadej [Rama the Ninth] is the Ninth of the Chakri Dynasty. The first of the Chakri Dynasty took power afte a coup against the King, whose name was . . . Taksin.


231 posted on 09/20/2006 5:13:28 PM PDT by Flash Bazbeaux
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To: Blogger

The danger of islam is it is decentralized and relentlessly patient. There isnt a "Hitler" to lightning rod the forces of freedom.


232 posted on 09/20/2006 6:29:19 PM PDT by omega4179 (Bushs only lie: Islam is TROP)
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To: Flash Bazbeaux

> That would be "about 240", right? <

Correct. My mistake!


233 posted on 09/20/2006 6:35:26 PM PDT by Hawthorn (As a little byrd once told me, I've seen a lot of white macacas in my time!)
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To: excludethis
Thai officials have been quietly engaging over the last year with “certain individuals” – including prominent southern Thai Muslims in political exile – who are seen as potentially able to influence the insurgents.

Knock me over with a feather. Perhaps the coup leaders desire a "constitutional amendment". To implement Sharia. Color me not stunned.

234 posted on 09/20/2006 6:49:51 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (We shall never forget the atrocities of September 11, 2001.)
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To: ichabod1
What You Say!

Zig for great justice!

235 posted on 09/20/2006 6:51:32 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (We shall never forget the atrocities of September 11, 2001.)
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To: Hawthorn
yesterday's coup in Thailand really had TOTALLY NOTHING to do with religion.

Keep telling yourself this. Boiled frog.

236 posted on 09/20/2006 6:53:44 PM PDT by ARealMothersSonForever (We shall never forget the atrocities of September 11, 2001.)
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To: excludethis

Coups are a way of life in Thailand.

1932-1940 3 coups
1941-1950 3 coups
1951-1960 4 coups
1961-1970 0 coups
1971-1980 3 coups
1981-1990 2 coups
1991- 2 coups (including the current one)

Democracy is still a work in progress




237 posted on 09/20/2006 7:32:20 PM PDT by FFIGHTER (Character Matters!)
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To: FFIGHTER

Quotes of Sonthi Boonyaratglin

"Thaksin is a Thai and a fellow countryman and there will be no problem should he decide to return. We are like brothers,"

"The army will not get involved in the political conflict. Political troubles should be resolved by politicians. Military coups are a thing of the past."


238 posted on 09/20/2006 7:38:42 PM PDT by FFIGHTER (Character Matters!)
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To: matt1234
I read the whole thread searching for this historical fact. If I hadn't found it, I was going to state it myself--not to comment meaningfully on the recent coup, but to draw out those with an agenda. I find it very interesting that killjoy's response (#192) to this post attempted to mitigate Thailand's (then Siam's) membership in an Axis.

Sorry I didn't explain it more at the time but it was about 2am here and I needed to get some sleep.

After Thailand was invaded on December 8, 1941, the country was under intense pressure from Japan. Thailand didn't have much of an Army and was in no position to resist so they ended up signing a treaty with Japan. Thailand was forced to declare war on the Allies although the Thai Ambassador in the US refused to make it official in Washington.

Instead the Thai Ambassador in Washington worked with the OSS to start up the Free Thai movement which sent Thai students in the US back to Thailand to start a resistance movement.

After the war France and the UK wanted to split up Thailand but the US refused to let them do it because of the great work of the Thai resistance movement. If you are interested, I suggest picking up a copy of: Thailand's Secret War: OSS, SOE and the Free Thai Underground During World War II (Cambridge Military Histories) by E. Bruce Reynolds

239 posted on 09/20/2006 7:46:28 PM PDT by killjoy (Dirka dirka mohammed jihad! Sherpa sherpa bakalah!)
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To: ARealMothersSonForever
Take my word,,The THAI Ain't gunna follow no MOOZZ-LAME,,
If I Could Choose Who Would Watch My Kin and Friends In
The Zone,While They Slept, It would Be ROK Army And Thai ! In That Order.
240 posted on 09/20/2006 7:55:56 PM PDT by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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