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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
Pope makes remarks about violence and religion, with specific references to Islam.

Media and Muslims mischaracterize his speech and attack him.

Pope takes nothing back, but says he's sorry peoples' feelings were hurt, and that wasn't the point.

"Conservatives" mischaracterize his speech and attack him.

8 posted on 09/17/2006 5:54:52 PM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose" -- Mitt Romney, April 2002)
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12 posted on 09/17/2006 5:56:02 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: JohnnyZ

Good summary. I hope you realize that you are one of the few that have accurately understood both the comments and the controversy. I am impressed with your ability to summarize all of it in just 3 sentences.


16 posted on 09/17/2006 5:59:12 PM PDT by ga medic
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To: JohnnyZ

I agree with you. The Pope, as far as I can tell, never said what his personal opinion is.


18 posted on 09/17/2006 6:00:22 PM PDT by BlueAngel
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To: JohnnyZ

Face it, it's not us that are wrong. Your pope did what every other leader in the world has done. He caved.


45 posted on 09/17/2006 6:31:58 PM PDT by Shimmer128 (Deja moo: The feeling you've heard this bull before)
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To: JohnnyZ

I agree 100% with you.
The Pope didn't cave, he was sorry he pissed people off, but it's amazing what is lacking from the story on the news.. no one is discussing what his speech was really about.

I'd like to dive deeper into all of it. It was complex and deep and my heart was telling me that he did use those quotes for a reason but not as a reason to have them show their evil cards. I think he was trying to show everyone that dialogue between religion and staying enlightened about it is important.

I think it's interesting how he referenced Greek culture being sophisticated and the intertwining of that with Christianity.

Anyhow.. I am ranting but I feel alone in why this speech was supposed to get exposure... it's getting it but not for the right reasons.


50 posted on 09/17/2006 6:38:38 PM PDT by tray-sea (www.spf5000.com ... for smart ass t-shirts (including a stuck on stupid shirt!))
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To: JohnnyZ

You're correct.

Both Moslems and FReepers misunderstood the actual speech.

Then they both misunderstood his reply to the angry mob.

The Pope didn't "cave"; he didn't really apologize. Which in this case, is fine with me!


114 posted on 09/18/2006 6:53:42 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue.)
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