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To: Mrs. Don-o

You couldn't be more wrong.

Confuciansm is all about obedience and subordination to other man. The subject must obey the ruler, the son must obey the father, the wife must obey the husband, etc. It has for centuries made China a society of only slave masters and slaves.

Confucianism was originally only one of many theories of social order taught in China, but sometime around 100 B.C. an Emperor of China decided it was such a good tool to maintain his power that he decreed that it would be the only one allowed to be taught and all other political theories were to be banned. And since then for 2000 years it has been the tool the rulers of China used to brainwash the populace into blind obedience.

It is no surprise that since the Communist rulers of China feel a discontent in the population, that they are pushing for Confusianism again, just like all the despots of China before them. They are doing this to fight off Western influence.


8 posted on 09/15/2006 11:21:59 AM PDT by Truthsearcher
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To: Truthsearcher
They are doing this to fight off Western influence.

They've already lost that battle...big time.

Gimme another reason.

10 posted on 09/15/2006 11:31:57 AM PDT by zarf
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To: Truthsearcher

Confucianism is not all bad. Having lived in China, I find the respect that children show their parents, teachers and elders over there to be a refreshing change from the bad attitudes and spoiled brattishness of so many children here in the US. On the other hand, I couldn't live without good old US individualism, which is certainly a virtue lacking in Chinese society. There are good and bad points about both types of societies, and perhaps a good society could marry elements of both.


16 posted on 09/15/2006 11:47:21 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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Truthsearcher, I am quire open to hearing more about your views, but for the moment I'll emphasize what's valuable about a resurgence of Confucism.

Confucisus' philosophy is strongly oriented toward law, order, and filial piety, and hence culturally favors stability more than dynamism, and tradition rather than liberation. That has both its good and its bad aspects, but on the whole, I think a society organized along thee lines makes it possible for most people to have a virtuous family life and honest work, which are the principal requirements for human fulfillment.

Its meritocratic features keep it from being totally stagnant and caste-trapped, providing an outlet for the constructive specially talented and the specially ambitious.

I do not think that natural virtues are the ultimate good (as a Christian, I am convinced we are made for more), but I think it's a lot bettter than some of the alternatives. Considering the horrible trauma of the various "Cultural Revolutions" and "Great Leaps Forward" that this great nation has had to endure in the past, Confucism could make a healing and constructive contribution.

Obedience and subordination are aspects of Christianity as well (see the Epistles for St. Paul's "Household Codes.") In the hands of some, this might turn into oppression; but at its best, it would inculcate a shared devotion to the common good.

Surely you can see some good possibilities here?

18 posted on 09/15/2006 12:01:05 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (What does the LORD require of you, but to do justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God)
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