[Graybeard58]

Illinois is a sad state, completely run by democrats, there's no concealed carry law here whatsoever. That makes my state one of only 4 in the U.S. that doesn't have some form of the law.

My 68 year old brother rides a motorcycle a lot and goes to different states. He told me that he carries a loaded gun in his saddle bag. He didn't even know that it was illegal in Illinois and probably other states where he travels.

[El Gato]

Make that one of only *two* states.

Illinois and Wisconsin. Even Wisconsin is moving in the right direction, but they needed two more votes in the lower house to override the governor's veto of a carry law. In January, the Wisconsin Senate voted 23-10 to override Gov. Jim Doyle’s (D) veto of RTC, but the Assembly fell two votes short, voting to override by 64-34.

There are 40 RTC states: 36 have “shall issue” laws, which require that carry permits be issued to applicants who meet uniform standards established by the state legislature. Alabama, Connecticut and Iowa have fairly-administered “discretionary-issue” carry permit systems. Alaska and Vermont respect the right to carry without a permit. (Alaska adopted a no-permit-required law in 2003, but has a shall-issue provision for purposes of permit-reciprocity with other states.) Of the 10 non-RTC states, eight have restrictively-administered discretionary-issue systems; two prohibit carrying altogether.

[Shooter 2.5]

Two states, not four.