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To: letsgonova19087
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, still no details, still no refutation of facts that I posted, and still MORE PC, wishy-washy, "lets all hold hands and sing Kumbyah" feel good drivel. OTOH, you are backpedaling so fast, that I'm getting blurred vision.

Please go back to your earlier posts and read them. You keep making all kinds of excuses for Clinton. On FR, we discuss the facts of the matter; you have yet to do so. Those of us, who were here on FR when Clinton was still in the White House and most of the events that directly led up to 9/11 happened, talked about what should be done and condemned the fact that NOTHING was being done, by him and his happy horde of inepts. Why do you want to be Clinton's "protector"?

Talking about what we think that President Bush should do now, if not only silly, but unproductive beyond measure. It also has less than nothing to do with the topic of this thread. By acting as though all of recent history had either not happened or just happened, is posting as though it was 9/10/01, a la the Clintonistas and most Dems.

2,462 posted on 09/12/2006 7:17:23 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons

"Why do you want to be Clinton's "protector"?"

I'm not looking to be anyone's protector, least of all his. I'd much rather continue this conversation without you making snide retorts implying that I'm some kind of Clintonista...I've avoided attacking you personally, and I'd appreciate it if you do the same.

"Talking about what we think that President Bush should do now, if not only silly, but unproductive beyond measure."

I guess we're just going to have to agree to disagree. To me, it seems like discussing future options and possibilites and debating their merits (though my impression is we would be entirely in agreement) would be far more productive than sitting around pointing fingers.

"It also has less than nothing to do with the topic of this thread. "

Last time I checked, this thread was titled "The Path to 911 Live Thread"...not "Pin the Blame on Somebody Thread". This was my reaction to the film, which is entirely relevant to this thread. People have expressed varying degrees of agreement or disagreement with what I wrote, which you can check on yourself, but yours are the only posts that make personal attacks against me.

Clinton could and should have gotten bin Laden. That's a given. I'm not trying to refute it, because its fact. As Roberta Wohlstetter, quoted in the 9/11 Commission Report said of Pearl Harbor, "its much easier AFTER the event to sort the relevant from the irrelevant. before...the event is obscure..."

I can't speak for FR, because I'm a fairly new member, but I can speak for the majority of America in that, before 9/11, we didn't take people like bin Laden seriously. We were wrong to do so, and people died because of it. It was easy to write off events such as the Cole bombing because they occured in such far away places. It is to easy to write off the events of thousands of miles away as distant and unimportant, and we did. 9/11, for me at least, changed that. I know the Financial District quite well, and when I saw bodies and rubble in the very spots I had walked not long before, it changed me like nothing before or since.

The moral of the story is, hindsight is always 20/20. You might disagree, but the far more pertinent discussion is not who we can blame the deaths of thousands on in the past, but what can and should be done to prevent thousands of similar deaths in the future.


2,464 posted on 09/12/2006 7:49:26 PM PDT by letsgonova19087
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